Is screen sharing boxing?

[Wabic]

If playing a character consists of the input and output for that character, then using a screen sharing program to see other characters' output is "playing" the output component of that character. Should this be considered boxing when a person is able to see the output from multiple character accounts?

I'm not trying to accuse anyone and I don't judge anyone who does it currently since it's within the rules.

[Zoesha]

like teamviewer? It's like borderline boxing and probably bannable tbh.

[Baler]

it's boxing when you're playing two characters on the same server. No matter the method.
You can play 1 char on blue and 1 char on red. But not 2 on blue or 2 on red.
1 person per 1 character logged into a p99 server.

The question i think you're asking,. is it okay to watch someone else play their own single character. Yeah otherwise watching streams on twitch while playing would be ban-able.
Just make sure you have zero input capabilities on their game, otherwise it's ban-able.

[maurilax]

I think the more nefarious part of the question is...

If i am the tracker for a spawn can i share my screen with 100 other people and then those 100 people play their own characters but can see that the mob the tracker is tracking spawned.

Another nuance. I am playing a character and my friend turns on his pc and starts streaming. so now i am watching my character and his stream (assume there is no delay) and telling him what buttons to push, that illegal?

Another good one daladen mentioned. I turn on my work pc and log in a tracker for some mob e.g. Verina tomb. I then go home and leave that tracker on with an sms program to text me when it spawns. I then log in from home to kill this mob. since I am only 1 person playing at home and cannot possibly play the other toon is this illegal? What if my friend is the one who leaves his pc on instead of me doing it at work?

[Coridan]

If you are telling him what buttons to push, I assume you are teaching a newbie, that is not two-boxing.

[Wabic]

Originally Posted by maurilax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the more nefarious part of the question is...

If i am the tracker for a spawn can i share my screen with 100 other people and then those 100 people play their own characters but can see that the mob the tracker is tracking spawned.

This is what motivated my question.

[maurilax]

Originally Posted by Wabic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what motivated my question.

I know Sirken has mentioned many times on stream that he thinks it is despicable (my words not his) but I dont think he for sure said its bannable. also how is it enforceable.

What if instead of screen sharing i setup a web cam in my house and point it at the monitor?

What if I am at a lan party and get up to use the bathroom and someone is watching my screen.

its pretty subjective if you ask me.

[Zoesha]

Originally Posted by Wabic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what motivated my question.

There is not a rule against using twitch or livestream. Sirken himself streams through twitch. You are allowed to stream to as many people as you want which can include tracking mobs so you guild could potentially see. You cannot however use a program that gives you the ability to control someone else's screen to play eq from another computer while you currently have your own eq instance going. Hope this helps answer your question.

[Wabic]

Originally Posted by Zoesha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is not a rule against using twitch or livestream. Sirken himself streams through twitch. You are allowed to stream to as many people as you want which can include tracking mobs so you guild could potentially see. You cannot however use a program that gives you the ability to control someone else's screen to play eq from another computer while you currently have your own eq instance going. Hope this helps answer your question.

Right, I mentioned myself that it's currently within the rules. I think it's worth noting that Sirken doesn't stream on red specifically because the extra vision provides an unfair advantage to those watching and a disadvantage to those being watched. I think the potential for unfairness exists on blue as well, although the cases are much narrower. Sirken would have to be looking right at a spawn point when a tracked mob pops or something.

If we define playing as controlling both the input and output, I'm fine with that, too.

[Purp]

Originally Posted by maurilax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another good one daladen mentioned. I turn on my work pc and log in a tracker for some mob e.g. Verina tomb. I then go home and leave that tracker on with an sms program to text me when it spawns. I then log in from home to kill this mob. since I am only 1 person playing at home and cannot possibly play the other toon is this illegal? What if my friend is the one who leaves his pc on instead of me doing it at work?

why wouldn't you just leave computer on at work with private twitch stream to see when the mob spawns? don't need sms text program [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]