What a torp shm / enc can kill/camp that cleric / enc cannot?

[Izmael]

All at 60.

Discuss.

[Maliant]

60 monk / 60 sham best combo no worry about ring breaks ez oz.

[Victorio]

Nothing. Enc can already slow and sham heals are inferior on charm pet to clr heals.

Edit: actually, anything a sham can kill that a clr/enc can't, a torp sham + enc will be able to kill and a clr + enc won't.

[mickmoranis]

cleric > sham for enc duo ez no question.

The question is what good are 98% of the enchanters spells IF they're grouped with a shaman?

Not much is the answer.

[branamil]

The only thing the shaman brings to the table is Malo. Not critical enough to hold any camp that an Ench/cleric could not hold.

[Rygar]

I would think a Gwurm could be done by enc / shm but not enc / cleric. Need the big dog slow and a tash + malo to land it

[mickmoranis]

hmm idk why you would need to slow a gwurm if you were duoing it with a chanter? Are you thinking the shaman would tank while the enchanter had some crappy pet? idk... i think cheals would work better but if your pet broke, its game over probubly pretty instantly, that said it might not be if the shaman was tanking?

Good lord I dont think a shaman can tank a slowed gwurm though can it?

[Rygar]

They hit like in the 800s in Skyfire? An enchanted slow will be extremely difficult to land without a malo as well, I think shaman slows get resisted even with tash, malo, and occlusion of sound.

[mickmoranis]

Not sure a shaman could heal a feaster pet against a gwurm even with slow, but maybe.

Not sure a cleric could CH a feaster pet against a gwurm without slow either though, but maybe?

I would imagine the answer to OP's question is, whatever mob a shaman comes CLOSE to soloing, but just cant seem to solo... idk what those mobs are though maybe something in WW? Or a Gwurm like Rygar says?

But I just dont know for sure.

[Rygar]

I would think with rune + torpor+ spot heals a shaman could tank a slowed Gwurm for a very short bit. You need to get lucky with the charm breaks and have additional charm pets at the ready.

I guess the point is I think it is possible with shaman and chanter, just don't think it is possible with cleric and chanter (think cleric would get oom too fast even with chain charming pets).

This all is assuming straight up no tricks like strings or bladestopper or soulfires or 8 bags of wort pots or something ridiculous like that.