Warrior Race Question

[Yacoby44]

Hey guys, I was talking to someone on Red in game the other day casually, and when they found out that I played a Human Warrior they pretty much told me that Humans were the 2nd worst warriors in the game and that due to the lack of the slam ability in PvP and inferior stats to all the other races, and that the only worse race are Dark Elves. So pretty much my decision choice was narrowed down to just delete my character and roll an Ogre, even though kick causes a stun effect at level 55 in Kunark.

So basically, for times when my friends aren't on Red I decided to re-roll a Warrior on blue and start over from scratch.

Now here's the twist. I am a big under dog kind of guy and I always like to take the less chosen paths in life and I don't really like to follow the crowd. So I kinda looked at it like a challenge (since he claimed that even in PvE they are not that good), I enjoy when things aren't easy and I think adversity adds to the feeling of accomplishment you get out of a game when you do something that others deem to be hard to do or that you shouldn't do. So basically I want to play a Human warrior and try to prove that any race with enough skill and decent gear can tank at the high end. But at the same time I remembered him mentioning that Dark Elves were even worse than Humans. So that leads me to my final question.

Should I make a Human or a Dark Elf?

I expect to get trolled and have a lot of people will just post a few words and just say "play a large race." but I believe that each player should choose what appeals to them and their play style no matter how weird or different that play style is. Even though I don't actually RP in game I care about things like what deity my character chooses, even though nobody else may care at all. Anyway, just these forums would be a good place to bring this up since I don't have any RL friends that play Everquest to talk to about it, not to mention everyone in my Skype group plays other games. So thanks for reading my post guys and you all have a great day / evening.

[dcapotos]

make a gnome warrior instead

[Pillow Armadillo]

Consider trying an Iksar warrior. Their stats are roughly in line with gnomes, which you suggested in the post above, and are the only tanking class that can't currently wear plate armor. If that's not enough of a challenge for you, consider the fact that you're forced to worship Cazic-Thule and are KOS in nearly every city in the game, have virtually no mobility, and will be expected to pull aggro off of Ragebringer rogues for the first 45 levels of your already difficult existence.

[Supaskillz]

dark elfs look way more badass than humans

edit: iksar is kinda a cool choice too, because velious will reward you a bit for your effort before. Vellious iksars get access to good armor finally and they still get the regen and ac bonus.

[Broot]

Play whichever one sounds the coolest in your head. You know - roleplaying!

Don't let the min/maxxers get you down. Skill always trumps stats. I bet an evil Human warrior could up the difficulty a little bit, plus it's probably rather rare.

[Yacoby44]

All your suggestions sound really cool and Broot you got the idea, I would be the only Human Warrior that follows Bertoxxulous. RP is so under rated and almost nobody cares about their characters background or their origin anymore. Well I guess I am one of the ones that do. Now before anyone flames me and says "This isn't Live." I just wanted to point out that for a long time while I was playing on Live the top Warrior in game cross server was a Dark Elf. Once again, I know Classic and Live are two totally different games completely, but I found it kind of ironic that the so called "worst" warrior in Classic, The Dark Elf, was the best of the best on Live.

Also funny fact, I heard that Sword and Board is now the preferred tanking setup for end game tanks on Live these days. I guess there's not much difference between WoW and EQ Live anymore. :b

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Yacoby44 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All your suggestions sound really cool and Broot you got the idea, I would be the only Human Warrior that follows Bertoxxulous. RP is so under rated and almost nobody cares about their characters background or their origin anymore. Well I guess I am one of the ones that do. Now before anyone flames me and says "This isn't Live." I just wanted to point out that for a long time while I was playing on Live the top Warrior in game cross server was a Dark Elf. Once again, I know Classic and Live are two totally different games completely, but I found it kind of ironic that the so called "worst" warrior in Classic, The Dark Elf, was the best of the best on Live.

Also funny fact, I heard that Sword and Board is now the preferred tanking setup for end game tanks on Live these days. I guess there's not much difference between WoW and EQ Live anymore. :b

Actualy invierno is a evil human warrior of berto last time i saw him he was 50

[Yacoby44]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actualy invierno is a evil human warrior of berto last time i saw him he was 50

Really? If this is true Invierno should post on my thread if he reads this. Idk if I should be bummed I was not the first Bertox Warrior or happy that I have a fellow Bloodsaber on the server, lol.

[webrunner5]

Trouble is on this server there will probably never be any AA's. And that tends to level out toons on live. On here a Ogre Warrior has a ton more Str and Sta than a human. Let alone the frontal stun resist. No other race is going to have more AC and HP than a Ogre equally equipted. So you are not going to be the Main tank I don't give a crap what anyone says unless you are the Guild Leader and it is his or her toon.

But like a lot of people say play what you want to play. It is your toon, pick what you want, but don't make is sound like you will be the top dog as a DE or Human. All the top end guilds have the same gear on the top people. On a raid if the Main Tank dies it is a wipe. I am not going to Bat Phone 40 peeps to have a lesser Tank be there. Ain't happening.

[Weekapaug]

For my money, Dark Elf or Wood Elf for racial hide. You will be amazed at how useful that can be, especially when you are a class with zero utility like a warrior. And they are both badass looking in plate. And they are both the perfect size and camera view for tanking for me....I always feel like I'm meleeing with one of my shamans when I try to play a large race tank. I always percieve being evil as more of a challenge, so for you a Dark Elf would be my reccomendation.

By the way, despite what the minmaxxers will say, every race class combo is entirely viable. Your choice may limit what you can do on the high end, but warriors are no exception. You likely won't be a main tank for raids, but not every ogre in your guild will be either. If you don't plan to raid I wouldn't sweat race at all. Wouldn't sweat it anyway.

I respect the hell out of your approach. minmax on red....you need every possible edge there. on blue, have fun and play whatever appeals to you.