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Old 12-18-2009, 06:41 PM
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Project 1999 Inspired by true events.

Want to know how you got to this point?

-Begin work solo.
-Make sweet love to waybackmachine, daily
-Recruit some help.
-Open beta testing for a year
-Fix things
-Beta testers submit LOTs of things
-Fix things
-Give free reign to beta testers to #zone, people are #leveled and geared
-Raid content gets beta tested
-Beta testers submit things
-Majority of posted bugs and issues are fixed
-Continue development.
-Huge dispute with people claiming that no more than 20-50 people would play unless there was 2 boxing
-Rebellion is quelled. People get mad.
-Beta community presses hard for release of server claiming it has been too long in development
-Give 2 week notice that beta was ending and server would fully launch.
-New beta testers submit LOTs of things
-Fix things
-Partially convinced by months of argument that the server would soon need 2 boxing, estimated players were quite low.
-Last day of beta.. raid content is further tested.
-Beta ends
-Clear character data, inventories, etc in preparation of launch.
-Server launches
-Oh fux, there are hundreds of people. Upload speed available in my area insufficient.
-Start looking for new hosting enviroment
-Doom and gloom as lag monster consumes everyone
-Rogean offers temporary hosting
-<3 Rogean, connection upgraded to ludicrous speed
-People are happy, mostly
-Threats start, out of control ooc
-Bannings occur. Threats, insanity, etc.
-Exploits handled. People are warned/punished as needed.
-Rogean joins development as Server Administrator
-project1999.org is established
-ddos person gets upset for various rules they disagreed with
-ddos attacks begin
-terrorist demands: ease up on the ooc chat rules, unban the people that were banned*i assume that was the only for sure way they could play without singling out themselves as the attacker.
-We decide to give everyone another chance
-massive complaints about game mechanics, melee, and various bugs
-development works and fixes while simultaneously trying to configure all the tools and connections to do their work safely.
-GMs overloaded by amounts of petitions
-Isolated hurt butts all around norrath
-Working enviroment reestablished, continue work
-ddos guy /attack
-Refusal of any further terrorist demands..
-ddos guy /attack
-claims of gm favoritism, review logs. listen to testimonials
-ddos guy /attack
-claims of IB favoritism, review logs. listen to testimonials
-ddos guy /attack
-fixes and work in general slow down as full time petition support and is required.
-ddos guy /attack
-conspiracy theories are grown. time wasted explaining the lunacy.
-EQemu is terminated for constant attacks. loginservers, irc, webpage, etc
-p1999 and the loginservers brought back up.
-claims of any drama that could be conjured or molded from conjecture + exasperation
-webpage is brought back up
-strong urge to ban my problems, not my players. have you asked yourself lately which you are?


here are some facts:

-not all GMs are developers.
-most GMs have no idea how certain scripts work or are written.
-you have no idea how certain scripts work or are written.
-scripts are being further tweaked and rewritten due to the certain effects ceasing to function after engagement.
-GMs do not want to interfere with you. they want to solve your problem and put you on your way.
-there are GM guidelines which they agreed to follow that you know nothing about
-player or GM punishment is none of your business.
-if you bring your problem to the forums, it should be unresolvable via PM.
-the more idiocy that is in general chat, the less new people that will play here.
-GMs absolutely do NOT want a rotation schedule. I can provide you with screenshots to both your guild leaders as well as instructions to my GMs to have you resolve the issue yourselves. Don't paint a picture like thats what we want.
-I understand why daxum quit developing VZTZ as well as his farewell message. http://forums.pwnedemu.com/
-I wanted to play on this server. I do not anymore.
-I will only say things once. Not request them anymore.
-Bullshit will stop immediately. Don't make me stop it for you.
First I want to say thank you for having this server. I do not intend to offend but rather be blunt as to what is happening.

I disagree with these points Nilbog:

-GMs do not want to interfere with you. they want to solve your problem and put you on your way.
-GMs absolutely do NOT want a rotation schedule. I can provide you with screenshots to both your guild leaders as well as instructions to my GMs to have you resolve the issue yourselves. Don't paint a picture like thats what we want.

We are on a forced rotation system because it is GM imposed. It is the interference that has caused this. Solving problems is interference.

A simple rule of first to engage policy would have been sufficient. Otto is a great guildleader and if Transcendence had engaged any raid encounter before we did we would have backed off.

I have put a lot of time on your server and so have many others. This rotation system and any rotation system takes away the effort I have put into my character as someone can roll up a character tomorrow, level to 50 and have equal chance at everything I have been working hard for these past 2 months. I do not believe Wenai understands this concept.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:46 PM
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I have put a lot of time on your server and so have many others. This rotation system and any rotation system takes away the effort I have put into my character as someone can roll up a character tomorrow, level to 50 and have equal chance at everything I have been working hard for these past 2 months. I do not believe Wenai understands this concept.
If you have decided to make P1999 more of a job than a game, that's not Nilbog's fault.

But this probably explains the vigor with which you high-enders are attacking the forums these days.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:48 PM
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If you have decided to make P1999 more of a job than a game, that's not Nilbog's fault.

But this probably explains the vigor with which you high-enders are attacking the forums these days.
It just that they want to control the server... they got mad that transcendance had an applicable raid force at the dragons spawn like 7 hours before spawn, and they got pissed and felt belittled, and said that they would just come in and KS, which is hypocritcal because they ranted on me for "KSing" EE lol
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:06 PM
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Thanks for giving us a response from the very top, Nilbog. This is definitely what I have been looking for, and though it's very subtle I completely understand where it's going.

Unfortunately it's saying that this server will never be anything like a Classic server was. We rolled into your project that was probably initially just designed to be a pet project for your own enjoyment and it sounds like you signed up for a lot more than you were aware of. Being such a small project, the resources to address inter-guild conflicts and bugged content in a manner and time frame that SoE left us expecting is just impossible. I'm assuming that you are the only person who has final say on big issues and no matter how many GMs or Devs are online, anything that we bicker about on the forums will have to be approved or vetoed by you, and that would require more time than any one person could give it seems.

Regardless, it has been a fun run up to this part of the game.
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LOL people were bitching about wanting boxing even then. Love it.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:52 PM
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If you have decided to make P1999 more of a job than a game, that's not Nilbog's fault.

But this probably explains the vigor with which you high-enders are attacking the forums these days.
So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:55 PM
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So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
LOL... Transcendance were waiting at raid encounters at least 7 hours before hand, so what your saying is that the camp is rightfully theres??..... Then Why the fuck was IB crying and threatening to KS...
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:02 PM
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LOL... Transcendance were waiting at raid encounters at least 7 hours before hand, so what your saying is that the camp is rightfully theres??..... Then Why the fuck was IB crying and threatening to KS...
This is not true.

This happened during the Vox raid that Trans was doing. We waited and allowed Transcendence to engage. We would have moved in had there been a legitimate wipe.

Otto said that we would not do this because the DDOS attack happened, which caused Transcendence to wipe due to lag.

We understand that it was their kill. They camped and were there.

But let me tell you something. If you were camped at the frenzy spawn all by yourself and you could not take it, then the camp is not yours. The same thing should apply to any raid encounter. Just because your butt is physically there, does not mean you can just claim it. You got to be able to do it. This is how it's always been for all of us in EverQuest. To follow these rules and magically make raid encounters different is ridiculous.

First to engage. If Transcendence was in Permafrost and had the raid force to encounter Lady Vox, we would be more than willing to let them take the encounter. You can best be assured though that if they wipe we would take a jab at it. If you want classic, that's how it was.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:57 PM
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So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
Yes, but by your earlier comment if somone who has less play time than you is at the Frenzy camp, they should give it to you becasue you have "put in more time".

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This rotation system and any rotation system takes away the effort I have put into my character as someone can roll up a character tomorrow, level to 50 and have equal chance at everything I have been working hard for these past 2 months.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:05 PM
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Reiker,

On live, no player was made known of another player's punishment. If the problem you were having as a player and petitioned ceased, then you could assume that it was handled. I will NOT tell anyone how someone was punished nor will I tell the offender who petitioned against them.

If you don't trust me, then I have nothing else to say. My post should have summed it up. This is the last chance for you guys to stop wasting my time and forum reading time. I'm here for the server, not for individuals.

To everyone else,

I will not be monitoring this thread.. but if it becomes a rants and flames candidate, I will just delete the posts. I meant the shit the first time I said it, please comfort each other.
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