Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Tasslehofp99]

I just meant that since training outside of vp happens regularly anyway and is rarely enforced, why not go full retard with it and just make training allowes everywhere? Why is VP different than innoruuk or cazic thule?

By the logic provided by those in support of sanctioned training, shouldn't training be allowed in all non-csr zones? Wouldn't that just make less work for the gms as well?

The simplest solution would be to either outlaw training in all zones or allow it in all zones. I mean, 2 years+ of VP with training and still no one deems it worth the time required to attempt 1 dragon. I think a lot of people fail to realize that competition at this point in VP equates to who can stay awake the longest and field a kill force while keeping opposing trainers dead. How is that any different from poopsocking? How is that more competitive than if trains weren't allowed and guilds were forced to pull and kill dragons while avoiding training eachother?

I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason training should be a part of raiding at all, other than it allows the top guild to keep all others out until they are finished farming the zone. This is not competition, and it is diminishing the health of the raid scene. Tons of more people would likely play if VP wasn't a total shitfest and actually provided competition. Not to mention the fact that those of us on the shit end of the VP stick are left with very little faith that velious release is going to do anything for the stagnant raid scene. Especially when there's already talk of sanctioned training being allowed in velious raiding zones as well.

[Godefroi]

the staff clearly gives 2 fucks and clearly won't enforce classic CSR rules

I mean, it's free gaming and drama generates traffic, why would Big sean fix anything.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just meant that since training outside of vp happens regularly anyway and is rarely enforced, why not go full retard with it and just make training allowes everywhere? Why is VP different than innoruuk or cazic thule?

By the logic provided by those in support of sanctioned training, shouldn't training be allowed in all non-csr zones? Wouldn't that just make less work for the gms as well?

The simplest solution would be to either outlaw training in all zones or allow it in all zones. I mean, 2 years+ of VP with training and still no one deems it worth the time required to attempt 1 dragon. I think a lot of people fail to realize that competition at this point in VP equates to who can stay awake the longest and field a kill force while keeping opposing trainers dead. How is that any different from poopsocking? How is that more competitive than if trains weren't allowed and guilds were forced to pull and kill dragons while avoiding training eachother?

I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason training should be a part of raiding at all, other than it allows the top guild to keep all others out until they are finished farming the zone. This is not competition, and it is diminishing the health of the raid scene. Tons of more people would likely play if VP wasn't a total shitfest and actually provided competition. Not to mention the fact that those of us on the shit end of the VP stick are left with very little faith that velious release is going to do anything for the stagnant raid scene. Especially when there's already talk of sanctioned training being allowed in velious raiding zones as well.

Haven't followed this thread as closely lately, but that is a good point. Hope sanctioned training isn't allowed in Velious that's ridiculous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't followed this thread as closely lately, but that is a good point. Hope sanctioned training isn't allowed in Velious that's ridiculous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

speaks the man who like to do rl threats to oposite guild members when lose a race.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

speaks the man who like to do rl threats to oposite guild members when lose a race.

How is this related to the topic numb fuck ?

If you take rl threats seriously you're even dumber than the one carrying them out

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is this related to the topic numb fuck ?

If you take rl threats seriously you're even dumber than the one carrying them out

when it come to blame others to train based of their own members not being enough smart to know a monk+bard song: bad idea.

outside of vp btw, so take seriusly the threats when u got people rl jobs and homes by people like him enough mad to call them after they lose a race .

are you the dude make proud calls about other players ethnics anwyays ?. so who dyou care go dupe aons man.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just meant that since training outside of vp happens regularly anyway and is rarely enforced, why not go full retard with it and just make training allowes everywhere? Why is VP different than innoruuk or cazic thule?

By the logic provided by those in support of sanctioned training, shouldn't training be allowed in all non-csr zones? Wouldn't that just make less work for the gms as well?

The simplest solution would be to either outlaw training in all zones or allow it in all zones. I mean, 2 years+ of VP with training and still no one deems it worth the time required to attempt 1 dragon. I think a lot of people fail to realize that competition at this point in VP equates to who can stay awake the longest and field a kill force while keeping opposing trainers dead. How is that any different from poopsocking? How is that more competitive than if trains weren't allowed and guilds were forced to pull and kill dragons while avoiding training eachother?

I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason training should be a part of raiding at all, other than it allows the top guild to keep all others out until they are finished farming the zone. This is not competition, and it is diminishing the health of the raid scene. Tons of more people would likely play if VP wasn't a total shitfest and actually provided competition. Not to mention the fact that those of us on the shit end of the VP stick are left with very little faith that velious release is going to do anything for the stagnant raid scene. Especially when there's already talk of sanctioned training being allowed in velious raiding zones as well.

Bump lets keep this friendly please, this is a very important topic to the servers raid scene and a huge flaw in the rules here.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bump lets keep this friendly please, this is a very important topic to the servers raid scene and a huge flaw in the rules here.

Stop posting rants and flames in my post please arteker.


If you have nothing of value to contribute just move on.

Damn almost 300 people against training being sanctiones by gms.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes. as the most trained guild in vp(tr,ib,vd,bda,fe,) we still here .we wont go down.

unlike all others above.

its abuse when u cannot use it visc , when u made the big words when u where in Fe u said u would kick us .


u tried the train war, tass tried it. didint worked well.


so now is time to cry.

Aside from TR/IB, BDA/FE/VD as far as I know inherited the rules of VP. Most of us would prefer to never step foot in that zone as long as such a non-classic feature as training is allowed. You must not read like any of the posts, cause it just seems like you keep repeating the same things over and over that make very little sense.

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just meant that since training outside of vp happens regularly anyway and is rarely enforced, why not go full retard with it and just make training allowes everywhere? Why is VP different than innoruuk or cazic thule?

By the logic provided by those in support of sanctioned training, shouldn't training be allowed in all non-csr zones? Wouldn't that just make less work for the gms as well?

The simplest solution would be to either outlaw training in all zones or allow it in all zones. I mean, 2 years+ of VP with training and still no one deems it worth the time required to attempt 1 dragon. I think a lot of people fail to realize that competition at this point in VP equates to who can stay awake the longest and field a kill force while keeping opposing trainers dead. How is that any different from poopsocking? How is that more competitive than if trains weren't allowed and guilds were forced to pull and kill dragons while avoiding training eachother?

I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason training should be a part of raiding at all, other than it allows the top guild to keep all others out until they are finished farming the zone. This is not competition, and it is diminishing the health of the raid scene. Tons of more people would likely play if VP wasn't a total shitfest and actually provided competition. Not to mention the fact that those of us on the shit end of the VP stick are left with very little faith that velious release is going to do anything for the stagnant raid scene. Especially when there's already talk of sanctioned training being allowed in velious raiding zones as well.

[quido]

Tasslehof, don't lie - you used to love being a part of train wars.