Victim disarmament zones

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Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your imagination is poor. Not every situation will be the same. Sometimes you may have time to go retrieve the gun from your safe, sometimes not. Perhaps people who have guns for self defense believe that they will generally have enough time.

I only keep my rifles that I have sighted in the scopes in my safe, don't want them to get touched and off sight. I keep my pistols and shotguns all around the house. Got a 45 by the toliet in case some ***** sneaks up on me while im trying to drop a deuce.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice! Bet you can't wait to turn that burglary into a homicide. Hope you win the shootout

Eighty percent of defensive uses of firearms do not involve firing said firearm. Eighty percent of the remaining do not cause a fatality. So given that 4% of DGU's result in a fatality why would you say homicide (and it would be a legally valid use of force in all 50 states and therefore not a homicide).

[aowen]

The fact that people live with such an incredible amount of fear is hilarious to me. Like Sauron is amassing power in the shadows to eventually break into your house, rape your wife, and steal your TV. The unforeseen threat that is out there. The bomb that could go off at any second. The gang bangers that are going to empty your house. The Charlie Manson cult breaking in. You gun nuts are fuckin pussy paranoid psychos man. I laugh at all the people who think that the solution to crime is to GI Joe lockdown.

It gets so ridiculous sometimes, I have a friend's parents who have door jams so you can't kick in the door, a pistol that fires shot gun shells called a Judge among several other pistols, some of which have lazer grips, and enough ammo and food supplies to make it through the apocalypse that is right around the corner.

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that people live with such an incredible amount of fear is hilarious to me. Like Sauron is amassing power in the shadows to eventually break into your house, rape your wife, and steal your TV. The unforeseen threat that is out there. The bomb that could go off at any second. The gang bangers that are going to empty your house. The Charlie Manson cult breaking in. You gun nuts are fuckin pussy paranoid psychos man. I laugh at all the people who think that the solution to crime is to GI Joe lockdown.

It gets so ridiculous sometimes, I have a friend's parents who have door jams so you can't kick in the door, a pistol that fires shot gun shells called a Judge among several other pistols, some of which have lazer grips, and enough ammo and food supplies to make it through the apocalypse that is right around the corner.

Yeah cause that shit never happens right? I don't own a gun or plan to but it always cracks me up when you Liberals live in a fantasy world where nothing bad ever happens. Have you ever been in a bad neighborhood in your life? Have you even been within a few blocks of a shooting?

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah cause that shit never happens right? I don't own a gun or plan to but it always cracks me up when you Liberals live in a fantasy world where nothing bad ever happens. Have you ever been in a bad neighborhood in your life? Have you even been within a few blocks of a shooting?

Yes and Yes and my job has me carrying bags of money around shady places and i have been robbed at gunpoint and i still don't own a gun. Know why? Cause no matter where that gun is when someone has a gun cocked and pointed at the back of your head your not making a move.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that people live with such an incredible amount of fear is hilarious to me. Like Sauron is amassing power in the shadows to eventually break into your house, rape your wife, and steal your TV. The unforeseen threat that is out there. The bomb that could go off at any second. The gang bangers that are going to empty your house. The Charlie Manson cult breaking in. You gun nuts are fuckin pussy paranoid psychos man. I laugh at all the people who think that the solution to crime is to GI Joe lockdown.

It gets so ridiculous sometimes, I have a friend's parents who have door jams so you can't kick in the door, a pistol that fires shot gun shells called a Judge among several other pistols, some of which have lazer grips, and enough ammo and food supplies to make it through the apocalypse that is right around the corner.

fuck you, G.I. Joe's rule!

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that people live with such an incredible amount of fear is hilarious to me. Like Sauron is amassing power in the shadows to eventually break into your house, rape your wife, and steal your TV. The unforeseen threat that is out there. The bomb that could go off at any second. The gang bangers that are going to empty your house. The Charlie Manson cult breaking in. You gun nuts are fuckin pussy paranoid psychos man. I laugh at all the people who think that the solution to crime is to GI Joe lockdown.

It gets so ridiculous sometimes, I have a friend's parents who have door jams so you can't kick in the door, a pistol that fires shot gun shells called a Judge among several other pistols, some of which have lazer grips, and enough ammo and food supplies to make it through the apocalypse that is right around the corner.

Most of these comments come from middle or upper class folks that have no grip on reality outside of their suburban world. And most people that own guns aren't 'gun nuts' but uninformed and clueless kids (that become uninformed and clueless adults) classify them that way. Most of these people probably don't have families or anything worth protecting or have ever been in a position where their life has been at risk. Look at any natural disaster, even one that just happened here in my own state of Colorado, which has little in the way of natural disasters. The first thing that happens is looting and robbery. While I'm not worried about my possessions as they are replaceable, if a natural disaster were to happen or someone broke into my house, and my family was put in jeopardy, I would without a doubt put a bullet into someone and risk going to prison then let someone else take/hurt my family. I think any father would be willing to sacrifice that for their family.

And many people I know are like me in that I own guns, and yes, I enjoying going to the range, but I hope to never have to use them against somebody. And as far as lasers and other accessories, I'm not into that, but it's just like anything else. I'm a computer nut, so I like to have the latest and greatest hardware/software/cooling equipment. Other people get into guns just the same. You'll always have people on the extreme, but assuming that anyone that doesn't hate guns is a gun nut or a 'prepper', is purely naive.

[Galelor]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of these comments come from middle or upper class folks that have no grip on reality outside of their suburban world. And most people that own guns aren't 'gun nuts' but uninformed and clueless kids (that become uninformed and clueless adults) classify them that way. Most of these people probably don't have families or anything worth protecting or have ever been in a position where their life has been at risk. Look at any natural disaster, even one that just happened here in my own state of Colorado, which has little in the way of natural disasters. The first thing that happens is looting and robbery. While I'm not worried about my possessions as they are replaceable, if a natural disaster were to happen or someone broke into my house, and my family was put in jeopardy, I would without a doubt put a bullet into someone and risk going to prison then let someone else take/hurt my family. I think any father would be willing to sacrifice that for their family.

And many people I know are like me in that I own guns, and yes, I enjoying going to the range, but I hope to never have to use them against somebody. And as far as lasers and other accessories, I'm not into that, but it's just like anything else. I'm a computer nut, so I like to have the latest and greatest hardware/software/cooling equipment. Other people get into guns just the same. You'll always have people on the extreme, but assuming that anyone that doesn't hate guns is a gun nut or a 'prepper', is purely naive.

I stopped reading at this post because it is /thread.

I live in Chicago, and have to drive through some bad areas to get to good areas. I drove past a gang murder by accident the other night, and beat the cops there by 10 seconds (after 2 guys had been killed...) Had I not been late where I was going, and left 5 minutes sooner I may honestly not be here right now... Most violent crime in Chicago happens in areas no one posting on this forum would ever go. Those citizens deserve to defend themselves too. Additionally, even in the nice areas of Chicago, there are still robberies, rapes, home invasions, and other violent crimes. The city is a very harsh place. Check out the crime statistics on the Chicago police website, they post all reported crimes+location and put them on a map for easy viewing.

I have two guns in my home. They are accessible and can be loaded quickly. I will be licensed when conceal carry is in place. I will carry when outside my home.

*I am honestly shocked that laser sights are illegal in Chicago because for short range they are an aiming assistance. Citizens carrying guns legally may hit their target more often. This sounds like a positive to me...

**The second amendment clearly states and obviously means citizens have the right to keep and bear arms.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
If you believe this amendment is old/worthless/miswritten, I suggest that you think about how you would feel if the same was said about the other amendments. Honestly, if you don't like our constitution, find somewhere else to leave.

[Elmarnieh]

Many gun control laws run counter to safe firearm use.

Laws against suppressors increase the rate of hearing loss.
Laws agaisnt "Saturday night specials" reduce the ability for the non-criminal poor to access means of self-defense agaisnt violence.

[aowen]

I forgot to mention the assault rifles and power generator too!