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Old 01-03-2014, 11:41 PM
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A wipe now would give us a last shot at a realistic timeline for this server. The whole economy and game mechanics have been altered in such a way that there is no undoing it at this point. Velious will help matters but there are so many existing geared toons out there and so much plat. And to think how many dormant accounts are out there with multiple geared 60's just waiting for Velious? If you think we have a numbers problem now just wait.

Also considering how much the admins have learned about mitigating cheating and RMTing, those activities would have much less of an impact on the second go around.

Wipe now and we may be lucky to have Velious completed in the normal time frame with raid content available when it was in the original. If the aim of this server is to be as close to classic as possible, I would urge the admins to reconsider this option, it's the only true way to restore balance to this environment.

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I'm sure the playbase would be just fine, this is still the best show in town for a classic MMO experience. Some may leave but so what, those are probably the people who won't be missed much anyway - the ones who thrive on domination.
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:46 PM
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theres alota things that are great bout rules but alot def need some fine turning.

look way back at server launch, holo was the op guild for awhile. no1 could exp if holo was in zone lol. and even tho they got banned, they knew their stuff.

nihi then begins to mass invite, creating a zerg. which in time won over holo... that and nihi never got caught using that exploit that holo got caught using in sol b.


its part of the game fighting over mobs and setting up our own rules, so to speak.
if we cant deal with nihi or whoever mass killing every1, then instead of crying to gm's, they should b crying out for others in similar situtations and created a guild to work together. Thats what we got guilds for lol. makea mass team and then try fixing the problem.

i Hated it about eq live but looking back , it sorta made the game. gms would only cause change if they absolutely had to. they'd let players work it out , or not. as long as no rules wer broken, the game continued.

nihi clearly won and should get the dank raids, and the gimp players who cant get a raid going themselves, and cant coordinate around nihi then you're not ready for that raid.
it shouldnt be gifted. not every1 gets a turn to 'raid the pony'. by max level, only the truely dedicated remained. but now that the xp is much easier, we're getting ppl who are use to an ez ride...
look at alll the other mmos.



the players need to fix this up, WITH the guidance of the gm's.
dropping a set of rules of such great change, without huge warnings everytime u logged on, almost seems shifty lol.


theres gota b more resolutions to this. banning those who appose will only lower our pop. we need to attract more ppl here, to the PVP server. we had it perfect. blues went to blue, reds went to red. both had different views so we played ondifferent servers. now its like they're coming and infecting red99 with the blue. plz dont make it purple99.

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Old 01-04-2014, 12:38 AM
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:48 AM
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I respect OPs opinion. I see where you are coming from, but I got another analogy for you in return:

The US National Debt is over 17 trillion dollars. The government could easily throw those printing presses in overdrive, printing enough money to pay their own debt off. But, they don't, because it would thoroughly and completely DESTROY the economy and the value of the dollar, much more worse off than it already is.

Flooding the server with mobs won't make your problems go away. The mobs are the mobs, and there won't be more mobs till the next xpac. The server needs to figure a way to work it out without having trak pop every 29 minutes.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:51 AM
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I respect OPs opinion. I see where you are coming from, but I got another analogy for you in return:

The US National Debt is over 17 trillion dollars. The government could easily throw those printing presses in overdrive, printing enough money to pay their own debt off. But, they don't, because it would thoroughly and completely DESTROY the economy and the value of the dollar, much more worse off than it already is.

Flooding the server with mobs won't make your problems go away. The mobs are the mobs, and there won't be more mobs till the next xpac. The server needs to figure a way to work it out without having trak pop every 29 minutes.
And yet the government regularly does manipulate the economy, to alleviate the effects of inflation and deflation and keep the populace from eating one another. Furthermore, the government acknowledges that this role is their responsibility. A government that shuts down the economy to punish the populace would experience riots in the streets.

I am not proposing that the server staff cause repops every 30 minutes, but it is undeniable that more to go around would make negotiations between the guilds far easier on all parties involved.
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Old 01-04-2014, 01:09 AM
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And yet the government regularly does manipulate the economy, to cause inflation, slowly depleting the incomes and value held by people not in finance and keep bankers and investors rich or waste a bunch of money on stupid ideas just for the sake of spending money.
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Old 01-04-2014, 01:13 AM
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Old 01-04-2014, 06:57 PM
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I respect OPs opinion. I see where you are coming from,. The server needs trak pop every 29 minutes.

The real question is..

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Old 01-04-2014, 12:52 AM
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you missed the point and are nitpicking about government policies :P
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:54 AM
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TMO member blaming the terrible raid scene on staff, lol
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