Get rid of PNP rules

[Mac Dretti]

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[Buhbuh]

Or you could maybe, you know, come together with other guild leaders to form some kind of compromise that doesn't completely fuck the server's population again and again?

The only reason these rules are in, Nizzar, is because you and every other guild leader has too much pride to give even an ounce of respect to each other to talk about how to behave on this server.

These rules would be gone immediately if you were in Teamspeak with Chewie, Lite, Heartbrand, and any other people they feel are relevant to the conversation to draft some sort of guidelines.

Otherwise, stop complaining about it. You're doing it to yourselves, and that's exactly how GM's see it.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you could maybe, you know, come together with other guild leaders to form some kind of compromise that doesn't completely fuck the server's population again and again?

The only reason these rules are in, Nizzar, is because you and every other guild leader has too much pride to give even an ounce of respect to each other to talk about how to behave on this server.

These rules would be gone immediately if you were in Teamspeak with Chewie, Lite, Heartbrand, and any other people they feel are relevant to the conversation to draft some sort of guidelines.

Otherwise, stop complaining about it. You're doing it to yourselves, and that's exactly how GM's see it.

Agree 100%. I'm glad the GMs have enough insight to realize they have to push until the server can figure it out on their own. We have had 2 years to figure it out and Nizzar's policy of us policing it ourselves involves pushing raid mobs to spawn at times the competition can't log in. That system is terrible for everyone, including Nihilum.

The PnP needs to stay while at the same time guild leaders need to get together and come up with an agreement so these bans aren't enforced going forward. The warranted bans will keep the truce honest.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, and we will allow you to raid and roll for loot as well. Chewie himself has taken advantage of this.

The reason people don't listen to you is because you write insane things on these forums. Your own guild speaks out against you.

Lies, I asked in /ooc if floewrs were welcome on raids, you said no, flowers won 1 roll and you forbad them from coming on any other raids without detagging

you have done ZERO to foster a multiguild server raid environment.

Edit, also, "Your own guild" you mean the spies we let you have in our guild because they are basically non-factors? Barda-cannibis, doesn't speak for flowers. NOR do I. But hey I been on this server long enough to accrue a reputation at least. Unlike some.

[Rellapse36]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you have done ZERO to foster a multiguild server raid environment.

So how many open raids has your guild led?

[Mac Dretti]

I've been to numerous foh raids

If u played longer than last few months u would know a thing or 2

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[Mac Dretti]

Bump

[Rec]

I blame UO and trammel for the start of all this play nice silliness

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I blame UO and trammel for the start of all this play nice silliness

The Trammel facet of a UO shard is the equivalent of a blue EQ server.

As for playing nice in UO, in all the years I was on live (98-01) and freeshards, I never once heard anything akin to a PNP proposed, let alone imposed, and this in a game where death left you a ghost standing at the foot of your corpse, helpless to do anything but watch your killers loot all your belongings.