Picking a race for shaman

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Frontal stun immunity is something people will say who have never actually played an ogre shaman. It's all hearsay

I play an Ogre Shaman and I am 60. I would recommend Ogre based on stun immunity. I played Barbarian Shaman on live and when I came here it was an easy choice. I don't regret anything. Remember although a slowed mob may only kick or bash every 30 seconds, what happens when your slow resists and that mob rushes you? What happens when you have 2,3, or 4 mobs in camp and multiple mobs are kicking/bashing and may or may not be slowed. People that say that slow makes Frontal Stun moot are ignoring many, many factors.

If you never plan to get Torpor/Fungi, Go Troll. Plate, Diety based clicky, Natural Fungi, alot better for casual play.

[hopped]

I dont think I would get it within the life span of the toon really fungi is 100k torpor 120k JBB another 45k... can I earn 260k+pp by 60? lol

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by hopped [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont think I would get it within the life span of the toon really fungi is 100k torpor 120k JBB another 45k... can I earn 260k+pp by 60? lol

Maybe if you solo'd money camps 1-56 then did 56+ in places like seb and got lucky.

Sisters in lfay, Sisters in oot, Treants in SK, Guards in HHK, Hill Giants in a bunch of zones, Ice Giants in Everfrost, seafuries in oot. This path will take forever though as Shaman are not efficient killing things like Giants until we get epic.

[DrKvothe]

You can't go wrong with shaman races. Each of them has at least one distinct advantage. Barbarians = faster leveling and good faction, Troll = regen, good stats, and close to EC, Ogre = good stats and frontal stun immunity, and Iksar = regen, smaller size, kunark leveling path, and AC bonus that'll mean a lot more in velious.

Even without stun immunity, you're still going to have a powerful character. If I were to start fresh on a brand new server, I'd go iksar *shrug*. As it is, I don't regret going barbarian.

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by hopped [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont think I would get it within the life span of the toon really fungi is 100k torpor 120k JBB another 45k... can I earn 260k+pp by 60? lol

Oh and btw although I solo'd my way to 60 in just a couple months. I still do not have any of these, No JBB, No Fungi, No Torpor. Although I did complete my epic quest.

[ShivanAngel]

FRONTAL STUN IMMUNITY DOES NOT KEEP YOU FROM GETTING INTERRUPTED WHEN BASHED...

So many people seem to think it does.

Troll for
Regen
http://wiki.project1999.com/Regent_Symbol_of_Innoruuk

[theaetatus]

Originally Posted by ShivanAngel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FRONTAL STUN IMMUNITY DOES NOT KEEP YOU FROM GETTING INTERRUPTED WHEN BASHED...

So many people seem to think it does.

It does unless you're being hit in the back by it, but that's why it's called FRONTAL stun immunity.

Ogre by a long way.

I was a Troll Shaman on live for years and rolled Ogre on my shaman this time in a heartbeat. When you're breaking a camp or accidentally get a few adds or get trained, it is invaluable. A tiny amount of extra regen (especially when factoring in Torpor) means nothing in comparison.

The only valid reason for not choosing Ogre is not liking the models.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It does unless you're being hit in the back by it, but that's why it's called FRONTAL stun immunity.

Ogre by a long way.

I was a Troll Shaman on live for years and rolled Ogre on my shaman this time in a heartbeat. When you're breaking a camp or accidentally get a few adds or get trained, it is invaluable. A tiny amount of extra regen (especially when factoring in Torpor) means nothing in comparison.

The only valid reason for not choosing Ogre is not liking the models.

I guess it depends on the player. As a 60 ogre shaman I've only had frontal stun immunity put to use a very small handful of times.

I personally value regen higher, because the regen is ALWAYS in effect. During the course of your ogre's playtime, the frontal stun immunity is being put to use about 0.01% of your playtime.

Even while playing on the Red server did I rarely see my frontal stun immunity put to use (one time I got a gate off vs 3 players because of it, wow lol).

Remember, a troll won the Best of the Best here. Don't under estimate regen.

That is my point of view.

[Potus]

Let us consult the master:

Race conclusion:
Troll by far. The two most important racial abilities for the PvP shaman are (in order): Slam, Natural Regen. You might point and say, "but but but, BLART! Trolls have shitty wisdom! And and their resists, well um, they suck cack!!" But you'd be wrong. Read the stats again, and whisper to yourself, "trolls are the best, they really are the best, better than rest". If that doesn't work, go write your own damn guide to misinform the world about the superiority of your effeminate barbarian.

[Mayhem2]

If you want to be a wrecking ball, pick an Ogre. If you want to pussy foot around, pick any of the other races.