Congratulations Lord Bob

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a difference between creating a raid environment that caters to conflicting styles of play, and respecting a player/guild agreement that even TMO abides by. Lord Bob has been clear they are not interested in respecting any player-enforced agreements... therefore forcing players to act to enforce via sanctions or diplomatic/non-diplomatic pressure.

serious?

you're comparing "staff enforced rules" to "player enforced agreements". TMO agreed to what the staff declared as law. if Bob guild wants to prep for Class C by testing what they can do versus the Class R guilds, i think that would be an extremely smart move, and i commend them for it.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An entire raid class was created for shitting on one another, it's called class c. Bob only wants to shit on the easiest prey it can find. That's not irony.

you know perfectly well bob has no chance in Class C yet. and unlike SOME GUILDS in the this thread, they actually belong in Class R. when they feel they can compete they will move up to Class C. the staff didn't declare Class R to be a rotation, you guys did. we created it to Restrict the top guilds from monopolizing content for another 2 years.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

serious?

you're comparing "staff enforced rules" to "player enforced agreements". TMO agreed to what the staff declared as law. if Bob guild wants to prep for Class C by testing what they can do versus the Class R guilds, i think that would be an extremely smart move, and i commend them for it.

If we donate enough to the pantheon kickstarter, can we go back to pre-2014 raid rules?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we donate enough to the pantheon kickstarter, can we go back to pre-2014 raid rules?

WE WANT COMPETITION

Rotates the first set of VP spawns

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

serious?

you're comparing "staff enforced rules" to "player enforced agreements". TMO agreed to what the staff declared as law. if Bob guild wants to prep for Class C by testing what they can do versus the Class R guilds, i think that would be an extremely smart move, and i commend them for it.

They came up invis during Indigs Sky time bought keys while we cleared isle one and started killing on 2 taking all they keys to 3.
While all the guilds on the server have a Sky rotation setup they pulled that crap.
How you can call that smart is beyond me.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They came up invis during Indigs Sky time bought keys while we cleared isle one and started killing on 2 taking all they keys to 3.
While all the guilds on the server have a Sky rotation setup they pulled that crap.
How you can call that smart is beyond me.

They were invis so you couldn't see them steal your sky day. I'd say that's smart.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

serious?

you're comparing "staff enforced rules" to "player enforced agreements". TMO agreed to what the staff declared as law. if Bob guild wants to prep for Class C by testing what they can do versus the Class R guilds, i think that would be an extremely smart move, and i commend them for it.

You're the one comparing them, insinuating there's some sort of irony or hypocrisy involved. I clearly stated there was a difference.

Look, I understand you don't care about player-created agreements because you came from a competitive background, but we the players do. In fact, I'm sticking up for a guild that is not even my own here.

If Lord Bob wants to piss off other guilds on the server, then if the other guilds were smart, they would work together to compel Lord Bob to fall in line with the existing agreement. Otherwise, what is the point of creating a player-enforced agreement?

We're not asking GMs to step in. Yet we're being ridiculed by what should be an unbiased/neutral staff for trying to maintain a peaceful solution that has worked for months... that's what gets me. :P

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're not asking GMs to step in. Yet we're being ridiculed by what should be an unbiased/neutral staff for trying to maintain a peaceful solution that has worked for months... that's what gets me. :P

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

serious?

you're comparing "staff enforced rules" to "player enforced agreements". TMO agreed to what the staff declared as law. if Bob guild wants to prep for Class C by testing what they can do versus the Class R guilds, i think that would be an extremely smart move, and i commend them for it.

No, it's a stupid move. The correct move would have been to join the sky rotation, join the R guild rotation and gear up/ get attempts without pressure at first, then join Class C in Velious.

[Miser]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's a stupid move. The correct move would have been to join the sky rotation, join the R guild rotation and gear up/ get attempts without pressure at first, then join Class C in Velious.

That's not the smart move. That's the shady move. At least Dolj are fuckin' men and made their intentions clear from the start.

[Derubael]

Yes, I saw the post, and it's why I started asking around to find out what led to that.

It's my understanding that they did attempt to communicate with other guilds, and were told there were no slots open for them. Then they made that post.