WTF is happening...

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Coridan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure someone can, but no one will. Also, 800k is not really enough to get an MMO going. They really needed to make their stretch goals.

Kickstarters like this are merely hype builders and info dumps - they aren't meant to completely fund the game. It let's Brad show possible investors that there is interest in the game he wants to make. That may backfire since there has been a low backer total but high average donation per backer - which indicates there may not be that big of a market for such a game (honestly the idea of an old school MMO is niche anyways).

[Man0warr]

The game industry as a whole is broken right now. The cost of development of AAA games has skyrocketed so much that only a few franchises are successful. Only a few ways to fix it - 1) Raise price of games (consumers are obviously against paying more than the 50-60 we pay now) or 2) Figure out how to make games cheaper, which they have so far failed at. It's also one of the only industries where you can continuously fail at your job (Producer or Director of a game) and still get hired at another company to do the same job. Not to mention the rampant nepotism.

At least Kickstarter allows some legit small dev teams to create games that are fully crowd funded and don't require going to corrupt publishers.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game industry as a whole is broken right now. The cost of development of AAA games has skyrocketed so much that only a few franchises are successful. Only a few ways to fix it - 1) Raise price of games (consumers are obviously against paying more than the 50-60 we pay now) or 2) Figure out how to make games cheaper, which they have so far failed at.

At least Kickstarter allows some legit small dev teams to create games that are fully crowd funded and don't require going to corrupt publishers.

Yeah, there are a LOT of gamer idiots out there ready to fork out money because 'OOOH PRETTY SCREENSHOTS AND PROMISES!!'

I don't hold it against developers when there are enough mouth-breathers ready to fund your project who get no stake in its success. It's a brilliant idea.

Honestly though, there have been a ton of high quality indie games released in the last couple years that were able to be made without swindling money from kickstarter idiots.

[Roth]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, there are a LOT of gamer idiots out there ready to fork out money because 'OOOH PRETTY SCREENSHOTS AND PROMISES!!'

I don't hold it against developers when there are enough mouth-breathers ready to fund your project who get no stake in its success. It's a brilliant idea.

Honestly though, there have been a ton of high quality indie games released in the last couple years that were able to be made without swindling money from kickstarter idiots.

Just watching the pantheon video, I think they're going to miss the point. I think it's going to end up like whatever other new mmo comes out and they will try to add in some gimmicks and it won't work. It's going to end up feeling exactly like every other mmo out there even if they change a lot of things up.

[jarshale]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least Kickstarter allows some legit small dev teams to create games that are fully crowd funded and don't require going to corrupt publishers.

I think we're going to see more and more "indie" MMOs coming out through crowdfunding like kickstarter. People are realizing that you just can't throw ludicrous amounts of money at a game to make it successful. For example, TOR was one of the most (or maybe the most) expensive game ever made, and it was a fucking mess and went free to play almost instantly.

So we probably won't see another giant like WoW anytime soon, but hopefully we'll see more smaller scale and specialized MMOs. They'll stop trying to appeal to everyone, and start thinking up interesting concepts and play styles to appeal to certain groups. This will also hopefully encourage healthy communities. I played with many of the same people for years on EQ, but 99% of the people I played WoW with I never saw again after a week or so.