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Old 02-17-2014, 02:50 PM
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Corpse runs are back:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02...-a-corpse-run/
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:10 AM
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Pantheon: Rise of the Corpses.

Honestly, I'm fine with it if they can put it in a new light or change it to make it more appealing. It's not the idea of running to get a corpse that's bad, it's just not offering anything new.

I'm split on this. I think it can work, but yet it also tastes bad in my mouth.

If you think back to EQ in its heyday, I think the biggest things against corpse runs were:
1) If you fail to get your corpse after ~7 days, it's deleted
2) If you can't get it yourself or someone else can't get it then there's no last resort
3) Having to run all the way back, sometimes through several zones
4) If you died in a out of the way place, who'll rez you or help you return to it?

What they need is a system that has options, like:
1) Summon your corpse from anywhere, but it costs experience and money
2) Respawn at the corpse, but it costs some experience
3) Respawn as a ghost and can get your corpse with minimal danger and it costs you minor experience.
4) Respawn without your gear and return to your corpse and it costs no experience

(there should be no ONE answer for everyone... all the options depend on the circumstances)

The above system would only be in-place in certain zones, not all zones. Maybe they could be called "champion" zones. The lore could be about how your soul is trapped to your corpse in those special zones, so it must be retrieved. In the other zones other systems could be in-place, allowing for flexibility in design. This would help to take the focus away from EQ and bring it into the new era without dragging mud into it.

Something like that, but with more thought put into it.

And note that the respawning and/or travel in Pantheon will be more convenient, more than likely. Corpse runs won't be the nightmare people remember from EQ where they might have to run from one end of the world to another. There're a variety of ways they can do this. I hope it has emphasis on player choices.

I think this game will NOT be EQ1 by any stretch based on what I've read, so I'm not afraid of this game making that mistake, BUT even a newer version of EQ might be too outdated for a modern niche audience. I think they have a target audience of some 25,000 - 50,000. Can they reach that population with these mechanics? Keep in mind they've mentioned Pantheon will be a combination of ideas from EQ and Vanguard and other games, so there're indications it'll be founded on a richer tapestry of ideas. Indeed, with discussions of cross-server travel and instances and "mega-server" concepts, I think they're trying to be as modern as they can.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:45 AM
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Pantheon: Rise of the Corpses.

Honestly, I'm fine with it if they can put it in a new light or change it to make it more appealing. It's not the idea of running to get a corpse that's bad, it's just not offering anything new.

I'm split on this. I think it can work, but yet it also tastes bad in my mouth.
Same here. That was one thing I never liked, it's like hell levels, or staring at the book (it had no point to it).
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