The official RMTer Goodbye P1999 Thread

[quido]

So who actually got and remains banned? CMON SOMEONE SPILL THE BEANS

[smedlysmom14]

I think whenever an account is flagged for RMT they should be warned every time they log in and only get 1 warning. That way people aren't shocked when they get banned 3 months down the road, while also preventing RMT from flourishing.

The best way to stop RMT isn't by watching them do it and banning them, but from preventing them from doing it in the first place.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think whenever an account is flagged for RMT they should be warned every time they log in and only get 1 warning.

So they get warned every time, but only once ... doesn't that mean they only get warned the first time?

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That way people aren't shocked when they get banned 3 months down the road, while also preventing RMT from flourishing.

Them being shocked is a good thing. Why would you want to make things easier on the people who break the rules and ruin the server economy?

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best way to stop RMT isn't by watching them do it and banning them, but from preventing them from doing it in the first place.

I'm sure if they could the GMs would prevent all RMT, but obviously they can't. All they can do is keep an eye out for suspicious activity, then research it when they find it ... it's not like they just magically know someone is an RMTer in an instant.

[smedlysmom14]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So they get warned every time, but only once ... doesn't that mean they only get warned the first time?


Them being shocked is a good thing. Why would you want to make things easier on the people who break the rules and ruin the server economy?


I'm sure if they could the GMs would prevent all RMT, but obviously they can't. All they can do is keep an eye out for suspicious activity, then research it when they find it ... it's not like they just magically know someone is an RMTer in an instant.

I guess you're right, there's really no way they can flag an account or give you a warning. Maybe they can just suspend accounts right away, investigate and then ban if they're found to be RMTing. Just so they there's not some 3 to 4 months lingering period where it goes on. That way people know they're watching, and wont attempt it. Keeping people like Platlord from doing business if not to a minimal amount.

I got one question though, what would the actions be if a friend gave another friend 100k, or a fungi, or a cloak of flames to start out with? How is that differentiated from RMT?

[Leeyuuduu]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got one question though, what would the actions be if a friend gave another friend 100k, or a fungi, or a cloak of flames to start out with? How is that differentiated from RMT?

One of the ways the GMs probably pulled this off was to have a sting-type operation where one of the GMs actually purchased plat on the site, met the RMTer in-game, opened up his account info/logs afterwards, and then went after every person this RMTer did business with, and then the people who did business with those who received stuff from the RMTer.

So I think the differentiation would be if your account or your items can be traced back to a dirty source or not.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think whenever an account is flagged for RMT they should be warned every time they log in and only get 1 warning.

They got one warning. It was in the Getting Started link they would have clicked on to, you know, get started here. Why would they require additional warnings beyond that?

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think whenever an account is flagged for RMT they should be warned every time they log in and only get 1 warning. That way people aren't shocked when they get banned 3 months down the road, while also preventing RMT from flourishing.

The best way to stop RMT isn't by watching them do it and banning them, but from preventing them from doing it in the first place.

I think that they should flag it by immediately banning it. If people saw their buddies who RMTed dropping one by one around them on a weekly or even daily basis that would be a far better deterrent than ban waves every 3-6 months. By the time the next crop of newbies starts up these threads will be long locked and buried, if they got an insta ban these threads would be here regularly as warnings.

[weezilla]

Originally Posted by smedlysmom14 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think whenever an account is flagged for RMT they should be warned every time they log in and only get 1 warning. That way people aren't shocked when they get banned 3 months down the road, while also preventing RMT from flourishing.

The best way to stop RMT isn't by watching them do it and banning them, but from preventing them from doing it in the first place.

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by weezilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

that level of pissing off the rmter would motivate my patience and keep doing massive bans

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by weezilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. Even to ban immediately. But waiting several months to do bans just lets RMT flourish, lets people who just spent money get addicted for several months, and allows said platinum to disperse through the server. I would have been pissed, but less pissed if I had been banned a week or two after the purchase (or even the day of).

Wouldn't matter. People would still have a problem with it, and whine and complain and protest their innocence. They do it their way. It seems to be working.