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Old 05-13-2014, 03:39 PM
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Right Vs Left is old world politics, guys.


They're on the same side now, republicans/democrats....and guess what? You're not on it.
Yup, the country has been on rails to a specific destination for many decades at this point. Dems and Reps are just fucking you in different ways. Government control vs corporate control. Pick your poison.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:40 PM
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Right Vs Left is old world politics, guys.


They're on the same side now, republicans/democrats....and guess what? You're not on it.
ones trying limited socialism and the other is trying pure fascist, so which controlling big gov would you feel comfortable with.
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There is literally no difference between republicans and democrats; they're both failing this country miserably. Time to throw both of those old and mutually corrupt parties aside and start voting for a new generation. Pls stop being a lemming; anyone who votes for a republican or a democrat, in any form/level of government, is exactly that. There will be no progress in this country until both of those old world political organizations are destroyed.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:44 PM
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ones trying limited socialism and the other is trying pure fascist, so which controlling big gov would you feel comfortable with.
Neither.


Both parties need to be dismantled and done away with permanently for any sort of progress to be made in this country. Voting for the lesser of two evils is exactly why this country is on a downward spiral over the last three decades, fuck that.


Abstaining, imo, is better than choosing the lesser of two evils. Atleast then you can say you had no part in the tyranny.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:51 PM
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Neither.


Both parties need to be dismantled and done away with permanently for any sort of progress to be made in this country. Voting for the lesser of two evils is exactly why this country is on a downward spiral over the last three decades, fuck that.


Abstaining, imo, is better than choosing the lesser of two evils. Atleast then you can say you had no part in the tyranny.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke

You have to do something or you are just as responsible. The only way abstaining would help is if everyone else were on board. It is a voluntary system that people have been conditioned to rely on.

Dismantling the parties is a start but the parties exist because of an obvious polarization in political thought. All that will be left is a power vaccuum and rinse and repeat. The elite know this which is why they coopt movements like the tea party and occupy (/eye roll) so they can manage opposition.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:57 PM
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I live within 100 miles of the West Coast. I have zero (0) 4th amendment rights to search and seizure from any law enforcement or government intelligence / security agencies - this was specifically approved and reaffirmed by Obama last year.

http://freepatriot.org/2013/12/07/wa...-coast-border/

Fuck him. And Fuck Hillary Clinton and her bullshit breaches of campaign donation law that she tool three (3) wrist slaps on for each count, on top of her numerous counts of power abuse while Bill was in office.

I'm a republican but I'm sick and tired of both sides. If I could wave a magic wand and make a single wish to effect change to my nation's government, it would be "Goddamit, stop LYING to me on EVERY matter you speak on!"

I'm just so tired of the lies. I'm just done, you know?
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:01 PM
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke

You have to do something or you are just as responsible. The only way abstaining would help is if everyone else were on board. It is a voluntary system that people have been conditioned to rely on.


Dismantling the parties is a start but the parties exist because of an obvious polarization in political thought. All that will be left is a power vaccuum and rinse and repeat. The elite know this which is why they coopt movements like the tea party and occupy (/eye roll) so they can manage opposition.
bolded/underlined text for emphasis of these 200 year old ideas that need to be eradicated from the minds of American people.

If we all came together under the reality that times change, and with that people and minds have to change, then maybe something positive could come from it. Until people are ready to let go of these old school ways of looking at government/politics nothing will change for the better.


I mean of the people eligible for voting in the US, less than half took part in any of the last 4 presidential elections. Take that half and split it down the middle (more or less) and you've got the results of nearly all 4 of the past elections. Each major party candidate has roughly gotten 25%~ of the total number of voters who are eligible. That leaves about half of the nation's eligible voters not taking place in the elections at all.

To me, this suggests that half of the country's voters are either A. not represented by either candidate or their party, or B. they just don't care/know enough about either candidate to feel compelled to vote. In any case, whoever wins an election can't say that they did so with the approval of over 25% of eligible American voters. That is a serious issue which needs correcting immediately before any American president can be taken seriously.

I'm no political expert but it doesn't really take a genius to see that this system is failing for numerous reasons, and its happening quicker with every passing year.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:04 PM
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And Fuck Hillary Clinton and her...
If the truth got out about Benghazi she'd burn, but it won't.

What does it matter!?
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:18 PM
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She wont burn. Her and her husband have dirt on everyone from his 8 year term. If they can get away with the deaths of people like Vince Foster or the other bodies from CIA drug trafficking in Arkansas I doubt she will go down over this.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:29 PM
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If the truth got out about Benghazi she'd burn, but it won't.

What does it matter!?
I think that if the truth got out about ALOT of things, Washington would burn.


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