religion

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know why it says don't eat pork? Because pork production isn't suited to the Middle East. So the Jews passed an edict and said god will punish you, so that people wouldn't waste resources on pigs. That's why cows are sacred in Hinduism... because cattle are necessary to work the monsoon drenched soil in India...

Again, you guys are missing the intellect of your ancestors. You think the Romans and Egyptians and Jews were just some bums who couldn't explain shit so they sat down one day and made up a myth to corroborate their poor udnerstanding of their environment?

As far as the thinking critically part... I addressed this earlier. Protestant culture was founded upon literacy and critical thinking. Admittedly, this is because they wanted their followers to reject Catholicism. Nonetheless, it worked out... Ask America, Sweden, Canada, NZ, Aus, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Estonia, the Netherlands, Switzerland... etc etc

Protestantism was a religious creed that emphasized critical thinking and individualism. As to what it is now, that's a differetn debate

I agree with all of that as well, and it's good to see someone who can focus on the good aspects of religion that are actually worth paying attention to.

It's very much a part of our cultural and intellectual history. It was our first attempt at literature, our first attempt at cosmology, at philosophy, at morality, at an understanding of our place in the universe and so forth. But because it was our first attempt, it was also our worst. It's how we tried to rationalize the world when we didn't know anything. For example, we didn't know we lived on a spherical planet, and we didn't know our planet revolved around the sun. We didn't know that there were microorganisms that explained disease; we thought diseases came from curses, or witches, or demons.

We now have better explanations for all of these things. Yet we still dwell, and in some countries and societies not just dwell, but live under a totalitarian regime that forbids us to even think about the progress that's been made, or denies us the knowledge that these advances have in fact occurred. Although once it probably once was an aid to our survival, is has become a great peril to our continued ability to live as a civilized people.

[radditsu]

Wtf is going on. Sorry.


Culture has only progressed since the time people could sit around thinking all day until they died at 50.

Believe it or not every generation since the 3rd century has become smarter , stronger and more sophisticated then the previous. RAP Music and cell phones be damned.

[radditsu]

And until recently religion has been open to the changes.

[iruinedyourday]

how come only idiots use the words 'strawman' & 'ad hominem'..

Ive never heard those words spoken in real conversation, ever. Only used in stupid internet arguments and its always the idiots of the group that use em.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how come only idiots use the words 'strawman' & 'ad hominem'..

Ive never heard those words spoken in real conversation, ever. Only used in stupid internet arguments and its always the idiots of the group that use em.

You are a social justice warrior. If you honestly want us to believe that you would be capable of having a legitimate discussion with someone who has a dissenting opinion, you're going to need to step up your game. The only people who associate with you are other professional victims and oppression Olympics athletes.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how come only idiots use the words 'strawman' & 'ad hominem'..

Ive never heard those words spoken in real conversation, ever. Only used in stupid internet arguments and its always the idiots of the group that use em.

I never do!

[radditsu]

These are not debates. These are idiots slinging fecal leavings at each other. Nothing is moved here. No minds are changed. Just two sets of trolls trolling each other until our universe unravels in entophy

[G13]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These are not debates. These are idiots slinging fecal leavings at each other. Nothing is moved here. No minds are changed. Just two sets of trolls trolling each other until our universe unravels in entophy

No you're an idiot slinging fecal leavings at people

Since you dodged the last question, how about taking a stab at this one?

There is enough information in one stand of DNA to fill a library with 10K books. How did that data get there? Can such ordered and detailed data which powers and organizes life been written purely by accidental chance or "gradual changes over time"?

You popped into this thread trying to mock and pretend you are smart

Show us how smart you are

[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is enough information in one stand of DNA to fill a library with 10K books. How did that data get there? Can such ordered and detailed data which powers and organizes life been written purely by accidental chance or "gradual changes over time"?

The mutations are random. I will give you that. You forgot about one thing. Natural selection. Would you expect to find an unordered library? What do you think happens to an organism if it has unordered DNA?

Life has had trillions and trillions and trillions of random mutations either selected for or against by nature. That is what arranges the library. If you follow a species heritage backwards you will see every single generation that spans back to the first cell produced that library. Not by random chance alone but by being forged by their surrounding environment.

[G13]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The mutations are random. I will give you that. You forgot about one thing. Natural selection. Would you expect to find an unordered library? What do you think happens to an organism if it has unordered DNA?

Life has had trillions and trillions and trillions of random mutations either selected for or against by nature. That is what arranges the library. If you follow a species heritage backwards you will see every single generation that spans back to the first cell produced that library. Not by random chance alone but by being forged by their surrounding environment.

On the contrary I was hoping you would bring Natural Selection up

Let's talk about that shall we?

All Natural Selection proves is that weak life forms die. It is a principle of breeding. Not Evolution. It is also a destructive principle. Not a creative principle. It doesn't write new legible genetic code that creates a new form of life never before seen on the planet.