Public Raid Petitions: P99 Freedom of Information Act

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that either option makes sense, because I can see the concern that public opinion would undermine fair results. Let's be honest, as simple as our game mechanics are, not everyone on these boards has a clue of what happens and why. (It amazes me how many people don't understand FD, sneak, and mob aggro mechanics).

Would it just be resolved petitions that are posted?
I personally would like to see a list of total petitions by guild--the ones that end up in purgatory.
Perhaps Rogean should budget for an official clerk?

Dolic

Whatever is done, it should have simple and established procedures to be followed. Hours of ex parte communication and back door deals does no one any favors.

[Culkasi]

I think this is an excellent idea, fully support the notion.

[Clasick]

This would create so much work for the GM's
The rule lawyering would start working in petition case law digging up and quoting various GM rulings. It's not so much about consistent rulings it's about every situation being unique.

Bad idea is just bad

[Ravager]

I propose a different solution which will be less work and headaches: Moderate the forums. Get rid of RnF entirely; any thread you'd move there, delete it instead. If that adds too much to the work, there's gotta be one person who is on these forums all day long who would jump at the chance to silence a few posters.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get rid of RnF entirely

Awful idea

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I propose a different solution which will be less work and headaches: Moderate the forums. Get rid of RnF entirely; any thread you'd move there, delete it instead. If that adds too much to the work, there's gotta be one person who is on these forums all day long who would jump at the chance to silence a few posters.

Ban this person.

[Gwence]

Nice post phats however all you suckers continue to play p99 so it must not be that big of a problem

Either that or you're new and this is your first taste of that insane level of inconsistency

It was around long long before whomever makes up the current GM team is now. I wouldn't put too much blame on them it sounds like it's just a continuation of what has been the standard since shortly after the servers launched

So I suppose, ironically enough, in that way they seem to be very consistent.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Clasick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would create so much work for the GM's
The rule lawyering would start working in petition case law digging up and quoting various GM rulings. It's not so much about consistent rulings it's about every situation being unique.

No additional work would be created. In fact, it would drastically reduce the amount of time spent on petitions. The GM's have spent manhours in the double digits Skyping JUST on the IB/TMO suspensions. Public petitions would make such things obsolete. Guilds would submit all of their evidence and argument a single time, and prepare for a ruling.

Additionally, the players already dig through old rulings and petitions every single time. The "rule lawyering" here could not be any more severe; it has already reached its maximum limit.

Open petitions do nothing but reduce workload, streamline the process, and create a more stable environment that avoids even the appearance of improprietous situations.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Clasick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would create so much work for the GM's
The rule lawyering would start working in petition case law digging up and quoting various GM rulings. It's not so much about consistent rulings it's about every situation being unique.

Bad idea is just bad

you're such a firegiant. this would set previous rulings as precedence and reference. which im sure you're rather new to all this but its very much needed.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're such a firegiant. this would set previous rulings as precedence and reference. which im sure you're rather new to all this but its very much needed.

Have any of you advocates actually looked at the workings of precedence-based legal systems (like, oh, say, the U.S.)? Can you really be so blind to the evil you're wishing upon the server staff? Seriously guys, you're advocating redefining LawyerQuest in the most awful way imaginable. Drama is entertaining, but there wouldn't be enough to compensate for the otherwise unmitigated ugliness you're trying to infect p99 with.