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Old 11-27-2014, 05:01 PM
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Old 12-06-2014, 06:55 PM
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the staff is already unable to enforce the current rules, because they care too much about population suffering when cutting out some cancer flesh. What makes you think more rules are gonna change that? It will just showcase the inability of this server's staff of enforcing their rules. They are not gonna dig their own grave. They will just continue pointing their fingers at the players instead of using them to fix the problems
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:47 PM
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how does this public petition forum stop back door negotiations? sounds like they would increase because of it

hard to create standards when every situation is unique. the posts should be private to the staff and parties involved. should only be made public once a final decision is made

it would save time but only after an initial increase in workload. all of this formal process needs to be created, implemented and then used a lot in order for it to pay off as a reference

and why all that work???

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Old 12-10-2014, 03:36 PM
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how does this public petition forum stop back door negotiations? sounds like they would increase because of it
The point is that backdoor communications are made obsolete. This public petition system, by definition, must have ALL of the evidence and explanation handed in up front by the petitioning party. The defense then responds all at once in a similar fashion.

Elaboration isn't typically needed; if it is, it is posted publicly. If, despite this, we STILL have back door dealings then it's not an issue of rules or procedures, it's an issue of decision makers acting unfairly. If that is the case, nothing can be done to stop that type of power abuse. I suspect we will not have this issue, however.

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Hey guys we got A LOT of rules, it sucks i know. but this one more rule will make it better i promise....
Changing the rules isn't the same as adding more. The system is broken, inefficient, and tacitly unfair. It's utterly wasteful for people to spend 7+ hours in skype over issues like this. What I have proposed is a fix for all of this back and forth. In fact, a sample procedure set has already been written and vetted!

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The ONLY reason anyone would want petition's to be public is so the party involved can use public opinion as support to their claim.
Public raid petitions force accountability on all parties. It is my firm belief that the current mess of haphazard skyping, PMing, and so on spiraled out of control because there was no organization put into it. It worked for small time petitions, but it doesn't cut it anymore. It's like when a small business starts growing; using Quickbooks just doesn't cut it anymore.

I, and others, want this system because it's wasteful to jump through so many hoops when there's an issue. Simple and straightforward procedures make everyone's lives easier. There is nothing to lose here, but so very much to gain.
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:53 PM
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The ONLY reason anyone would want petition's to be public is so the party involved can use public opinion as support to their claim.

I understand that there are people that play this game seriously and take it seriously but, attempting to drag the public at large into your politics game is low and frowned upon.

If making petition's public is the only way to end the drama the power house guilds have created then perhaps you should have chosen your battles better.

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Old 12-06-2014, 11:43 PM
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It will promote fair treatment, and when its unfair, it will be clear to all. People/leaders in the process will think out their petition and write them up, and there wont be the appearance of back room deals.

For example IB was able to overfill their bag limit 9 hours early when they killed Talendor and walk away unscathed , and TMO got dinged for overfilling our bag limit by 26 SECONDS.

it would be made clear to all why the GM's ruled in that way. It would settle down RNF.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:51 PM
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Hey guys we got A LOT of rules, it sucks i know. but this one more rule will make it better i promise....
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:41 PM
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I would like some clarification on what the GMs consider stalling and poopsocking. Those haven't been fully explained to me yet.
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:47 PM
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I would approve of this simply because then you can see all the shit GMs have to deal with. Do you think TMO / IB / BDA / GuildX is scum? Well you can see the petition section and decide for yourself on how the situation was handled by the guild representatives.
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Old 12-12-2014, 01:34 PM
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Remove respawns.

Full Repops only. People will spread out and less petitions over all since people aren't herpderping all over each other to get the one dragon that spawned early in his 16-hour non-classic window.
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