Late game Min/maxing class race list

[SamwiseRed]

you mean make it easier? soulfire being usable by everyone is a joke and so is recharging. glad that shit isnt on red.

[SamwiseRed]

ye anyone who says warrior stun immunity doesnt matter on warriors has never played a warrior period. that being said i dont min/max so my warriors arent ogre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Taminy]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ye anyone who says warrior stun immunity doesnt matter on warriors has never played a warrior period. that being said i dont min/max so my warriors arent ogre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While xp grouping frontal stun immunity is important. On bosses it isn't.

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ye anyone who says warrior stun immunity doesnt matter on warriors has never played a warrior period. that being said i dont min/max so my warriors arent ogre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What an ignorant statement... I've played a MT warrior on this server for almost 2 years now. I've tanked EVERYTHING (excluding VP). I have no trouble what so ever with aggro, positioning, and moving with the push while not having frontal stun immunity. Even just clearing trash or xp groups it makes zero difference. Stop spreading false information.

[Forsale]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What an ignorant statement... I've played a MT warrior on this server for almost 2 years now. I've tanked EVERYTHING (excluding VP). I have no trouble what so ever with aggro not having frontal stun immunity. Even just clearing trash or xp groups it makes zero difference. Stop spreading false information.

Nobody said it isn't possible with a non-ogre.
But stun immunity means more dps, more procs, more aggro... Question is, do you NEED it? No most of the time you don't, but if you wanna min/max, an Ogre is at the very least gonna be dealing a little more damage.
It's not rocket science.

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by Forsale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody said it isn't possible with a non-ogre.
But stun immunity means more dps, more procs, more aggro... Question is, do you NEED it? No most of the time you don't, but if you wanna min/max, an Ogre is at the very least gonna be dealing a little more damage.
It's not rocket science.

But it really doesn't? You act as if the tank is stunned 40% of the fight and that just isn't true. It's hardly more of anything! They deal more damage? Christ I'll be sure to match the parse and see how much more dps the ogre is dishing out. This game is RNG, you're not going to see an average % of more dmg from an ogre vs another race. I just say frontal stun for a tank is horse shit. Now if we're talking stats then sure the ogre has an easy time maxing sta and slipping in raw hp gear before other races.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it really doesn't? You act as if the tank is stunned 40% of the fight and that just isn't true.

By definition min/maxing is squeezing every bit of performance out - Ogre's will certainly have a slight edge on DPS/hate generation.

edit: Also, when considering min/max on a warrior I really only consider min/maxing for tanking end game bosses. It's really the only worthwhile reason to be a warrior. If you really want to min/max as a tank for groups then be an SK or paladin.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Bohab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What an ignorant statement... I've played a MT warrior on this server for almost 2 years now. I've tanked EVERYTHING (excluding VP). I have no trouble what so ever with aggro/positioning/moving with the push while not having frontal stun immunity. Even just clearing trash or xp groups it makes zero difference. Stop spreading false information.

damn you are a moron. read the OP. hell read the thread title. this is about min/maxing. nowhere did i say other races cant tank. while stunned you are not generating agro. even if its only 5-10% threat generation lost, its still threat lost. so again to answer OP, ogre warrior is the best race if you are a min/maxer. please stop being an idiot.

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is about min/maxing.

I get that but I'm just saying when it comes to warrior it's not that big of a deal what so ever compared to an ogre shaman getting it. I don't see it as a tank attribute that should force a player to choose ogre. I've duo'd with plenty of shamans of all races and ogre gets those slows/roots off while some tanking mobs easy. eat my ass pal

[Jimjam]

SK: nope
Pally: maybe later
Warrior: halfling
Bard: nope
Rogue: halfling
Monk: nope
Shaman: barb female
Wizard: nope
Magician: nope
Enchanter: nope
Ranger: maybe later
Druid: halfling
Necro: nope
Cleric: halfling