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Old 05-14-2015, 03:40 PM
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I mean I know you had the only Crown of Rile on RZ in Kunark and can be the only person who knows all this but some of us ya know got prof

Do u?

I even did your homework for you lil boy with a lil sample at 136 MR

It seems very correct to me

Bane is still too hard to resist here btw, but since I know most people have been griefed off their shamans cuz dey bad.. I let it go... so much for selfish interests, right?
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:57 PM
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I mean I know you had the only Crown of Rile on RZ in Kunark and can be the only person who knows all this but some of us ya know got prof

Do u?

I even did your homework for you lil boy with a lil sample at 136 MR

It seems very correct to me

Bane is still too hard to resist here btw, but since I know most people have been griefed off their shamans cuz dey bad.. I let it go... so much for selfish interests, right?
Your claims are absurd a Bard with GMR and elemental rhythms playing(with only mistmoore drums) would have had a 125 bonus to MR. Even with the worst gear this would have boosted his MR to 200+

Everyone claims the spell was unresistable, because they never saw a resist 136 MR lol everyone had 136 MR in velious. All you needed was a buff with 90ish MR and you broke that, Enchanters easily had 160ish with GMR plus shielding.

You do know GMR and shielding= 70 + MR right, + racial 25 base that's 95 MR butt naked!!

Still never a resist seen. Making a ridiculous claim that no one had that gear when buffs would allow a trash geared person to break 200 is ridiculous.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:13 PM
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Do we have any patches for old log files/screenshots that can confirm this or is it all memory?
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:20 PM
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Do we have any patches for old log files/screenshots that can confirm this or is it all memory?
Their are no patch notes to confirm or deny a vast majority of issues in PvP. Alecta was forced to code a lot of changes on memory and things found from alternate sites.

For Example:

If you research Shadow Knight Unholy Aura.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/s...tml?spell=4520

However this is not how it worked in Velious for that we were forced to go to Alternate sites...

http://www.albrandes.com/skden/articles/ht.asp

We've done the same with Shock of Lighting providing quit a few excerpts from everquest sites stating the spell was indeed unresistable in pvp as every player from every guild besides Empire has also agreed with.

At this point it's quite obvious to everyone here that Empire has an Agenda for not allowing this spell(And the others like it Chaotic Feedback, Shock of Blades, Poison bolt) to function as it did in Classic. And no amount of proof posted seems to suffice.
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:04 PM
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Their are no patch notes to confirm or deny a vast majority of issues in PvP. Alecta was forced to code a lot of changes on memory and things found from alternate sites.

For Example:

If you research Shadow Knight Unholy Aura.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/s...tml?spell=4520

However this is not how it worked in Velious for that we were forced to go to Alternate sites...

http://www.albrandes.com/skden/articles/ht.asp

We've done the same with Shock of Lighting providing quit a few excerpts from everquest sites stating the spell was indeed unresistable in pvp as every player from every guild besides Empire has also agreed with.

At this point it's quite obvious to everyone here that Empire has an Agenda for not allowing this spell(And the others like it Chaotic Feedback, Shock of Blades, Poison bolt) to function as it did in Classic. And no amount of proof posted seems to suffice.
Yes, I'm well aware of the research process and where some of the information is obtained from.

The question is: do you have any websites or just anecdotal evidence for this particular change?
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:24 PM
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Yes, I'm well aware of the research process and where some of the information is obtained from.

The question is: do you have any websites or just anecdotal evidence for this particular change?
We've already provided more than was needed for any other change, at this point you sound like someone arguing climate Change after 99% of the worlds scientists provided data and agreed.

We literally have less data to support most of the pvp changes in last patch.

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This is how it works:

All spells have a small chance to be resisted. That's why you can resist winged death or splurt sometimes in PvP even though those are basically unresistable.

However most of the time, a DD will do small damage against a target with high resists, but it won't be flat out resisted "your target resisted the draught of fire spell!".

This is why SoL is, for its usage, unresistable. Sure against a high MR target, it will do maybe 10 dmg / hit instead of expected 55 or so, but that doesn't matter, since it will still knock back.
If a buncha posts like this from that era aren't credible enough proof for you then I don't know what to tell you, Colleges are accepting applicants even now, it's never to late to earn an education.
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:54 PM
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We've already provided more than was needed for any other change, at this point you sound like someone arguing climate Change after 99% of the worlds scientists provided data and agreed.

We literally have less data to support most of the pvp changes in last patch.



If a buncha posts like this from that era aren't credible enough proof for you then I don't know what to tell you, Colleges are accepting applicants even now, it's never to late to earn an education.
Once again, you link a thread with mid-Velious and beginning Luclin discussing Shock of Lightning with no data from Classic/Kunark and even logs from Red99 or eqlive.

Waiting for more substantial proof.
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:24 PM
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Xearo looks naked in that ss gj
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:56 PM
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Xearo looks naked in that ss gj
You still claiming anyone with mid to low MR would see 30%-40% Resists on Sol?

So either you were...

So feebly inept at PvP in Classic you didn't mem the most used spell in the Wizard's Arsenal.

OR

You lied profusely in order to get custom changes on a classic pvp mechanic?

Either way you will never again be taken seriously by a Developer in regards to your Classic PvP expertise.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:00 PM
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so you posted a screenshot of an unbuffed druid who may or may not have even been level 60 getting hit with a 17 damage shock of lightning from a player who appears to be wearing an advisor robe(further supporting the fact that he isn't level 60) and a naked player dying to a shock of lightning

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

welp, looks like it's been proven to be unresistable yowl
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