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This could also be easily be torn apart on the usage of the word 'force' as well on account of its ambiguity. Is it physical force, persuasive force, or magical force?(I don't know if they surveyed the college D&D club). How many nerds don't think that they would 'force' Scarjo to sleep with them if they had Charm or Puppet Strings? Some probably wouldn't do it in the end but it sure sounded like a fun idea when they were doing this survey. And if whatever academic institution you attended taught that Wikipedia is an acceptable source for anything, you need to call and demand a refund. I'm sure there's other terrible references, but this one just caught my eye while skimming. Quote:
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But ok fine, let's leave that survey out since you dislike it so much. Here's a fact that's backed up by several different studies (so you can't just attack one in particular): 1 in 5 or 1 in 6 (depending on the study) women in America will experience a rape or attempted rape and report it in the study. Obviously we can't even measure the ones that don't report it, although many women don't. Now look, it takes A LOT of men to rape 1 in 5/6 women in America (even if some of those men commit multiple rapes). It's hard for me to see how there could be that many men willing and able to commit rape if there's absolutely no "rape culture" in America. Quote:
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I take issue with a lot of this stuff, and I may be shooting the messenger, but if the messenger is disseminating poor quality information, it's better to stop them sooner than later. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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As for the 1 in 6 number, I'm assuming you're referring to the 1995-1996 'Violence against women survey' published by the National Institute of Justice in 1998. There is a lot of interesting information there and some of it seems legit. I was impressed with the directness of the questions until I got to the last one in the 'rape' section. 'Has anyone, male of female, ever attempted to make you have vaginal, oral, or anal sex against your will but intercourse or penetration did not occur?' This is a padding question and should not be included in the 'rape' survey as worded but being that this was a politically motivated study, there's no way you couldn't have it in there because then your numbers wouldn't be as strong. This is one of those questions that pretty much every girl can answer with a 'yes' and they were counted as 'rape victims' in the study. The other questions were VERY direct and unambiguous. Remember that girl you made out with in middle school that you totally thought you were going to finger but then when you slipped your hand down her panties she pulled you away and you were like, come on baby, and she said no and you walked away with blue balls? Yeah, that was attempted rape, or at least would be qualified as such by this study. I'm not saying rape doesn't happen and that it's not something boys and girls shouldn't both be educated about. What I don't like is the poor statistics that get thrown around because of their sensational response. Interesting fact from the survey: You are almost twice as likely to be the recipient of rape if you are an American Indian or Alaskan Native than if you're black. Check the facts and see what I did there. tl;dr: I feel sorry for the next generation of kids. Can't make a gun shape with your hand (or out of toast for that matter) and can't get any action. <3 loramin for being a good sport. | |||||
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