Current Sky Schedule

[wrighter00]

hahaha. I'm going to start typing "Hi mom!" in my in game replies when negotiating this kinda stuff just to add some humor for everyone. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to joke around with people contesting an event only to be met with the most stale attitudes possible. Seriously, people are trying to rule this server with screen shots, logs, and the MMO police. I've been to multiple contested events where people have made passive aggressive comments about logs and screen shots cause FoH is joking around. This sucks, guys. Way to take something fun, a PVE game, and make it like a court battle. Even in court, judges get annoyed if you are there for something petty. I really don't think the GMs on this server want to see people who can't work it out within their rules. That's like volunteering to babysit adults.

*Edit* I, for one, will always buy myself new keys or pay to have my key corpse in Sky renewed if need be. Regardless of the scenario. That goes along with me choosing to play this game. Thanks.



Rainwarden Tolo - 60 Druid - Fires of Heaven - Officer

[Kileras]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hahaha. I'm going to start typing "Hi mom!" in my in game replies when negotiating this kinda stuff just to add some humor for everyone. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to joke around with people contesting an event only to be met with the most stale attitudes possible. Seriously, people are trying to rule this server with screen shots, logs, and the MMO police. I've been to multiple contested events where people have made passive aggressive comments about logs and screen shots cause FoH is joking around. This sucks, guys. Way to take something fun, a PVE game, and make it like a court battle. Even in court, judges get annoyed if you are there for something petty. I really don't think the GMs on this server want to see people who can't work it out within their rules. That's like volunteering to babysit adults.

*Edit* I, for one, will always buy myself new keys or pay to have my key corpse in Sky renewed if need be. Regardless of the scenario. That goes along with me choosing to play this game. Thanks.



Rainwarden Tolo - 60 Druid - Fires of Heaven - Officer

if your problem on mondays is europa, then try and get ahold of their leadership. They have always been super nice to work with and invested into making content open to smaller guilds. I am sure if you talked to them you could find a way to make the schedule work on your time, in the passed it was assumed that by 8pm EST night time PM slots should have their sky repopped. I assume thats what everyone holds too.

[paroxysmal]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if your problem on mondays is europa, then try and get ahold of their leadership. They have always been super nice to work with and invested into making content open to smaller guilds. I am sure if you talked to them you could find a way to make the schedule work on your time, in the passed it was assumed that by 8pm EST night time PM slots should have their sky repopped. I assume thats what everyone holds too.

This is definitely not the case on Monday nights. I have been trying to work through this with Europa for like 4 months now with no willingness to change on their part. Isle 2 and 3 bosses didn't pop until 9:30 pm CST and isle 6 boss hadn't repopped by the time we had to call it at 12am CST.

I have offered to welcome their members into a joint raid around 4pm CST to avoid conflict but was told that was too late for them and would not work.

On a typical night we start at 6 pm CST port up an asracks are down until 9:30pm CST. Europa has made an attempt to keep us informed of when they have done sky that day but its patchy at best and the members that are online at the time usually don't know anything about it.

Overall, a very frustrating experience.

We will continue doing sky on Monday nights for the foreseeable future and hopefully Europa will be able to choose a start time for their raid that does not affect so many of us in such a negative way.

[wrighter00]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize that a random group doing a monk epic will not read this thread nor will they care? It could potentially be some random group of friends that don't even use these forums.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no dog in this fight, but when reading the logs and I see "oh it's just a player agreement, we don't have to abide by that if its not GM enforced" is a quick way to get shit on by the rest of the server. The sky rotation has been a very unique agreement that has stood for a verrrrrrry long time. It would serve any guild to respect the agreement to avoid hostility from other guilds.

This was actually said by the same person. So should people follow the server rules or the player agreements? I thought what I was saying about that was obvious. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A big part of this, using the Monday night thing as an example, is that being told that something makes us look bad or ruins our reputation when we're not a guild who goes out of our way to be abrasive, hostile, competative, or dramatic doesn't make sense. In the end, no one's Sky night was ruined. Our Sky prospects aren't ruined. Hence we haven't blown anyone up about anything. We do still need to do some content, and just cause we're new doesn't mean we'll be the last to get anything done.


Rainwarden Tolo - 60 Druid - Fires of Heaven - Officer

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was actually said by the same person. So should people follow the server rules or the player agreements? I thought what I was saying about that was obvious. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A big part of this, using the Monday night thing as an example, is that being told that something makes us look bad or ruins our reputation when we're not a guild who goes out of our way to be abrasive, hostile, competative, or dramatic doesn't make sense. In the end, no one's Sky night was ruined. Our Sky prospects aren't ruined. Hence we haven't blown anyone up about anything. We do still need to do some content, and just cause we're new doesn't mean we'll be the last to get anything done.


Rainwarden Tolo - 60 Druid - Fires of Heaven - Officer

So a random pickup group doing a monk epic is the same thing as a guild staking its claim in sky on a particular day? Aight.

[Nightbear]

<Indignation> worked for over a year with <Europa> sharing the Monday time slot, you just have to start pretty late if you wanna roll Monday and alternate the Bees since they have a 12 hour respawn.

[Thurgrim]

Fugues/Pulsate, many thanks. I can't comment on the Monday PM time slot problem because the conversation occurred between Qani (FoH GM) and someone in Europa.

Perhaps we do need to extend another line of communication to them.

Concerning the Clue ordeal, I think it has been blown out of proportion.... I thought it was squashed but by todays post (and an /ooc message from Pooh Bear yesterday) its pretty clear they feel robbed out of something on Isle 1.

In closing...

To Clue officers and GM, we'll try not poop in your Cheerios again.

FYI, the princess dropped no additional keys, so dont feel bad. We'll stay out of Sky on Sunday PM.

[jpetrick]

New guild comes in and gets worked up over a sky slot that has been another guilds slot for years? Even more comical is that they are mad at groups killing island 1 for keys to do Gwan.

We shared mondays with them for well over a year with no issues.

Every fires of heaven member I have run into has been terrible. I can see it's a top down issue now.

[Thurgrim]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New guild comes in and gets worked up over a sky slot that has been another guilds slot for years? Even more comical is that they are mad at groups killing island 1 for keys to do Gwan.

We shared mondays with them for well over a year with no issues.

Every fires of heaven member I have run into has been terrible. I can see it's a top down issue now.

Ive got not personal beef with you or Europa.
Attitude varies among membership, if you have/had a problems with multiple FoH send me, Rainwarden, or Qani a tell. Im not innocent when it comes to stepping on toes, but in all cases it was necessary.

[jpetrick]

It's the sense of entitlement that pisses me off. Your guild hasn't done anything noteworthy on the server. You're brand new here. The passive aggressive accusation towards Europa (a very old and reputable tag) is absolutely laughable.

You're mad about island one of plane of sky. You had to buy island 2 keys. What a terrible ordeal you had to experience.