Apologies, Red.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Feanol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For God's Sake.

Holocaust is a just a word.



And an excellent name for a PvP guild at that.

This situation is akin to making a guild named <Genocide> then having a bunch of Armenian players get pissy with you.

I understand the staff's reasoning for the change but I for one will miss typing "Holo in zone."

=/

Can't really agree with this sentiment. All words are "just words". But they can be used to hurt and insult and tear people down. If the word Holocaust was meant in a general sense for the guild, maybe they should have taken specific references to nazis a little more seriously and cleaned up their ranks themselves.

Bottom line,there are many words that had been used for decades or even centuries without having a negative connotation, yet have been used as derogatory terms in recent history and labeled as unsuitable for general use. A little common sense goes a long way.

[Feanol]

Originally Posted by orran [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no actually you wont because you are a bigot and the staff wont make the guild for you.

The only people who are made uncomfortable by a simple word are the intellectually deficient.

An organization of letters on a screen or the controlled breath of another person have no power over one's self unless YOU allow it to. Sticks and stones, mate.

[dontbanpls]

What about if that word represents the community and makes you look like a shit bag just for playing here is it ok to be offended then? i don't want to have to tell people that i played on a server with a guild named holocaust that routinely brought nazi culture to the community.

[orran]

The guild Holocaust has been offensive since day one, I remember gongshow used to post pictures of starving jews with no body fat in concentration camps and used to laugh at them on here before they got banned in classic.

[Archalen]

This is karma for accepting TMO into your ranks.

[Dango]

The leadership role should be suspended to be honest. Its a joke if not.

[orran]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is karma for accepting TMO into your ranks.

no this is karma for being neo nazi racist bigots

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by orran [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The guild Holocaust has been offensive since day one, I remember gongshow used to post pictures of starving jews with no body fat in concentration camps and used to laugh at them on here before they got banned in classic.

Above poster was in holocaust

[Tassador]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Above poster was in holocaust

Only as a spy for a 16 year old elf sim man you're sick that you do not know the difference!

[orran]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Above poster was in holocaust

my favorite part was the day they promoted me to full member I left because I had all the information I needed.