Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Raev]

I don't understand why this thread has gone around in circles for 19 pages. Iksars are the best; they are the only min/max choice. But the advantage, while one of the larger racial differences, is still relatively small; a good (and well socialized!) player can do just fine without the Iksar bonuses if they wish.

[Mojo24]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been playing necro for a longggg time and do challenging camps. It was my main in classic and I was 50 when Kunark dropped here. Burst damage necro is good if you are doing encounters where you are waiting for something to spawn. It's extra firing power. With group oriented play you can add lifetaps which is good dps, especially if it's challenging mobs where lifetap is hard to resist.



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People are not comprehending that the discussion is not about if regen is useful, it's about how useful it is and where it's not really that big a factor.



Resist builds are situational. You don't walk around with them, you are prepared to use them when the right situation calls.

Ok, again...why would you roll a necro to do burst damage and be a group oriented player? That's stupid. Roll a mage or a wizard to do burst damage.

Losing 4hp vs 15hp while sitting or 18 vs 10 standing is a big deal. (No demi for me yet)

And thanks for quoting my last line and agreeing with it. Why'd you even bother?

[ctre]

Originally Posted by Mojo24 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, again...why would you roll a necro to do burst damage and be a group oriented player? That's stupid. Roll a mage or a wizard to do burst damage.

Losing 4hp vs 15hp while sitting or 18 vs 10 standing is a big deal. (No demi for me yet)

And thanks for quoting my last line and agreeing with it. Why'd you even bother?

Ya so true.. necro's are not efficient at burst dps.. waste of an idea to think you are the burst dps as a necro.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Mojo24 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, again...why would you roll a necro to do burst damage and be a group oriented player? That's stupid. Roll a mage or a wizard to do burst damage.

Losing 4hp vs 15hp while sitting or 18 vs 10 standing is a big deal. (No demi for me yet)

And thanks for quoting my last line and agreeing with it. Why'd you even bother?

A few things.

Necros are really great in groups. They DPS with the best of them when undead charming is there. They have among the highest utility in the game with heals/mez/root/snare/rez/twitch. They have among the best mana regen in the game which allows them to add in nukes as well.

I'll give you an example I used earlier where bursts come in handy. Often time I'll log in with my necro, check if a named is up in howling stones and kill it. I don't stick around for hours camping. Just kill 1 mob and log. In this case, having a lot of firing power can be useful. You guys aren't understanding what I mean when I use the term burst, I mean being able to do as much damage in 1 fight as possible, not necessarily nuking a target down.

Some of you guys don't think outside the box enough.

[Manticmuse]

The only counter argument to iksar that ever approached making sense to me was the thread that guy made about being erudite on a pvp server. I still didn't agree and would not choose anything but the master race...but it was interesting to think on how a couple extra spell casts could really affect a short pvp fight. Then again, I am no expert at necro pvp strategies and would choose regen regardless. Just wanted to bring up the pvp thread in case anyone felt like digging it up.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Manticmuse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only counter argument to iksar that ever approached making sense to me was the thread that guy made about being erudite on a pvp server. I still didn't agree and would not choose anything but the master race...but it was interesting to think on how a couple extra spell casts could really affect a short pvp fight. Then again, I am no expert at necro pvp strategies and would choose regen regardless. Just wanted to bring up the pvp thread in case anyone felt like digging it up.

Tbh the regen in PvP is kind of invaluable.. So on red iksar is even more OP

But duuuuuude a dark elf with that crypt robe from dalnir is the COOLest

[Synthlol]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand why this thread has gone around in circles for 19 pages. Iksars are the best; they are the only min/max choice. But the advantage, while one of the larger racial differences, is still relatively small; a good (and well socialized!) player can do just fine without the Iksar bonuses if they wish.

This is very accurate. No racial is actually game breaking. They're just nice.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Synthlol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is very accurate. No racial is actually game breaking. They're just nice.

Except being a Gnome or Halfling. It breaks the game cause they look so dumb.

[Robbintha Hood]

This entire thread has me like:

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[Llodd]

Originally Posted by ctre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya so true.. necro's are not efficient at burst dps.. waste of an idea to think you are the burst dps as a necro.

Not entirely true. Undead we can do reasonably efficient burst dps. undead nuke + deflux, with clicky to avoid cooldown is not that bad.