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Old 08-10-2015, 08:39 PM
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And, you silly people slam them for wanting something different than you! Hey, it IS eq1999!!!
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:01 PM
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Yeah, it still hurts for me too. I play much less, but still occasionally log in because as of now, nothing compares to the overall quality of this server.
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Old 09-12-2015, 05:10 PM
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If you like Luclin models I suggest www.everquest.com.
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Old 09-12-2015, 05:11 PM
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People quitting over Luclin models, I don't get it.
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Old 09-12-2015, 05:49 PM
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I hope this rebellion is crushed and we can all continue to enjoy just classic models.
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Old 09-12-2015, 06:17 PM
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Red screwing everything up for everyone.
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Old 09-12-2015, 07:27 PM
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pras no more AoN hacks; forced old skeles
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Old 09-12-2015, 09:51 PM
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I think we can all agree that Skeletons not having nameplates was an oversight by the original devs anyway right? I don't think anyone ever intended for AoN's to be a PvP strategy.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:27 PM
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The original devs probably didn't intend a lot of things, but I don't think that's what nostalgia for classic is really about.

Anyway, after thinking about it a little more, I felt like saying some stuff to no one in particular:

The reason locking the text of the global load file doesn't really prevent anything is this:

1. Models are loaded by name (well, by a 3-letter identifier like "HUM" for human male)
2. The client's model loader works in a "first thing loaded with this name wins" fashion -- whatever is loaded with the name "HUM" first blocks anything that tries to load with that name later.
3. None of the data files indicated by the globalload file are checked for integrity.

The result is that you can just shove any model you want into a file that is loaded before the "correct" one, and give it the name of the thing you want to replace. For Luclin models this is a bit limited in that there are only two (pointless) files in globalload that are flagged to allow them to load their extra-special player model animations correctly. NPC models like skeletons don't have this limitation and could be shoved into any file in globalload.

The easiest way to block this without also blocking people from doing harmless texture fixes/replacements would be to extract the .wld files from the .s3d files loaded by globalload and subject them to some integrity checks -- putting them through a few different crc / hash methods would probably be the lowest-effort way while still being fairly resilient against cheesing.

If you were only concerned about player models and skeletons, you could just move global_chr to the top of globalload and only do the integrity checks on its .wld file. This would ensure that all the player models and classic skeles are loaded before anything that could replace them. Edit: I think classic iksars are in a different global#_chr file so you'd need that one too.
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Old 09-12-2015, 11:19 PM
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Am I the only one that actually LOVES that classic UI. Shit is just so fucking classic it is awesome.
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