Classic EQ and Luclin Models

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nilbog's goal is to recreate a museum quality replica of classic eq since it does not exist anywhere else and has said he would strive for it even if no one played here.

That is completely not true, as he allows many non classic things in P99, and has openly admitted to it.

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You choose to donate of your own free will and it entitles you to nothing extra.

Actually you are wrong. A US donor can implicitly dictate where their charitable donation is allocated, unless the entity seeking charity does the following:

1. Explicitly notes how their donations are handled.
2. Provide the public with records of their income and expense transactions. Neither of which P99 has not done.

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your donation pays for server maintence not dev/CSR time.

See above. Without public records of their transactions from their donations, you cannot make that statement.

That said, if they are taking donations from the community, the community (at least the US community) as a whole does have a say as to where their donations are spent.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is completely not true, as he allows many non classic things in P99, and has openly admitted to it.

And Luclin models are no longer one of those. Other changes are easily reversed and were implemented to fix the raid scene and/or reduce the amount of policing required by GMs.

Actually you are wrong. A US donor can implicitly dictate where their charitable donation is allocated, unless the entity seeking charity does the following:

1. Explicitly notes how their donations are handled.
2. Provide the public with records of their income and expense transactions. Neither of which P99 has not done.

Please do tell us where P99 is established as a charitable organization. Do you try to deduct your charitable donation from your income taxes?

Can you show us a screen cap of your Paypal donation with the note: "For Luclin Models only."

See above. Without public records of their transactions from their donations, you cannot make that statement.

That said, if they are taking donations from the community, the community (at least the US community) as a whole does have a say as to where their donations are spent.

The owners of the server have publicly stated as much in the past that donations goes to server maintenance/bandwidth.


You aren't going to win this argument and suddenly get Luclin models restored. Just stop and find a game that makes you happy.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stuffstuffstuff.

Join date June 2015.

Level 21.

Raging Butthurt about luclin graphics ...

/facepalm

[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, you can argue that they can say all that buuuut...

I am certain they did not envision creating a classic EQ server to have no one play on it.

Secondly, it's not a free server when they solicit donations from the community that plays it. If they legitimately want to say "F-U, we'll do what we want," to the community, then take down the pay pal donation link. Because My 15 bucks a month for the past months supports their development and server. Which makes me an investor, and therefore have a voice in their project.

Nilbog:

" I'll keep making classic changes when I can, regardless if people threaten to quit. I'm here to recreate classic eq; not to make people happy."



To the rest of your post. Wow, you sound like an extreme douche. Plzshutupandleave.

[milsorgen]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, you can argue that they can say all that buuuut...

I am certain they did not envision creating a classic EQ server to have no one play on it.

Secondly, it's not a free server when they solicit donations from the community that plays it. If they legitimately want to say "F-U, we'll do what we want," to the community, then take down the pay pal donation link. Because My 15 bucks a month for the past months supports their development and server. Which makes me an investor, and therefore have a voice in their project.

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[Synthlol]

If you're upset about this change because you care about graphic resolution in your video games, you might not belong here.

If you're upset about this change because you came to EQ later than Velious and you see Luclin models as the normal EQ models, you probably don't belong here.

If you're upset about this change because you were pleased when Luclin ruined the majesty of the classic EQ models, you definitely don't belong here.


This server is for people who share Nilbog's dream and vision of reliving old school EQ. Some of us really appreciate all he does to make things like they were. It's not perfect, but he's trying and doing a damn fine job. It's not perfect, but it's the best attempt that's been made and the best choice among EMU servers.

If you don't share Nilbog's vision, then this server is not for you. You may play on it and feel like all the time you've invested gives you some sort of right to make demands and whine and complain, but it doesn't.

If you don't like it, leave. You will not be missed.

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, you can argue that they can say all that buuuut...

I am certain they did not envision creating a classic EQ server to have no one play on it.

Secondly, it's not a free server when they solicit donations from the community that plays it. If they legitimately want to say "F-U, we'll do what we want," to the community, then take down the pay pal donation link. Because My 15 bucks a month for the past months supports their development and server. Which makes me an investor, and therefore have a voice in their project.

You are an ingrate and ungracious sir. There is an "entitled" feeling to your posts. This is all offered gratis, donate link or not. Even if you were to donate, which likely you did not, you are entitled to NOTHING. Plus you stole fizzy lifting drinks. Good DAY sir!

[DeadlyReza]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are an ingrate and ungracious sir. There is an "entitled" feeling to your posts. This is all offered gratis, donate link or not. Even if you were to donate, which likely you did not, you are entitled to NOTHING. Plus you stole fizzy lifting drinks. Good DAY sir!

Amen

Just because u donate doesnt make u an investor, u clearly dont understand how donations work...

All your entitled to is proof the money goes to the project, how and what area that ends up in is none or your/our business.

Get off your high horse and just be thankful it exists... or leave... either way, if you are acting like this P1999 does not want your money, time, or pixels

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[Zinyen]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am certain they did not envision creating a classic EQ server to have no one play on it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7HuJK_zPM

[rollin5k]

Luclin models literally unusable 90s garbage.