Spells: Dragon Roar

[Daldaen]

Aggro control is cool, but having all 3 of your warriors eat 20second fears when they're grouped with a bard and all sitting at 255MR isn't classic.

Thats what needs to be fixed.

For fucks sake, the cleric in the Sontalak video uses group CH to heal his group and everyone is in range for the heal.

On this server that shit would not happen ever due to the fears. His fear is spread by 36seconds, when people are feared for 20 and running back for 10, it makes killing him without swapping 40% of your raid for level 60 Rogue/Wizard alts impossible.

[Haynar]

Can I just say fuuuuuuu..

Anyways. Trying to figure this out. Not sure where its going wrong in the code. Spent 2 hrs already on it tonight.

H

[Colgate]

pras

i think the rate at which PCs resist NPC spells is just set too low in general

fear is just the one we notice the most

[Haynar]

One thing I saw, was the duration was rounding up. So for example, my test had 20% to land for full. 20% chance to resist completely. For a 3 tick spell, a rand over remaining, less than 1/3 should drop right away. 1/3 should last 1 tick. And 1/3 for 2. But it rounded up. So all partials got an extra tick. So effectively 40% lasted for full. And all partials had an extra tick.

I will try to iron out rest later. But thats a start.

H

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing I saw, was the duration was rounding up. So for example, my test had 20% to land for full. 20% chance to resist completely. For a 3 tick spell, a rand over remaining, less than 1/3 should drop right away. 1/3 should last 1 tick. And 1/3 for 2. But it rounded up. So all partials got an extra tick. So effectively 40% lasted for full. And all partials had an extra tick.

I will try to iron out rest later. But thats a start.

H

So a full fear is supposed to be 3 ticks - was the last 20% doing something odd?

Didn't we have some logs here somewhere of people taking 20,21,22 second fears?

With the changes is this how it will be:

20% full resist
20% drop immediately
20% 1 tick
20% 2 tick
20% 3 tick

At level 60 with 255mr?

If all partials were 1 tick more, then no one would drop fear immediately, ya? I'd have to look at logs when home but I'm pretty sure I've had instant drop fears.

[Daldaen]

That would definitely explain some of why it is such a pain to fight fear dragons on this server.

I look forward to any changes that come of this, thanks Haynar!

[Freakish]

Think about it this way. You get feared, 2 seconds later the server does its "tick" check. You are "instantly" unfeared.

If you've ever played a dot class and seen your dot tick as soon as it lands you'll understand.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think about it this way. You get feared, 2 seconds later the server does its "tick" check. You are "instantly" unfeared.

If you've ever played a dot class and seen your dot tick as soon as it lands you'll understand.

It's early. Makes sense. Thanks.

Still not sure about the 20/20/20/20/20 thing - still seems a tad high.

[Daldaen]

I agree the 20/20/20/20/20 spread doesn't seem right exactly.

Based on the videos, let's just assume everyone is 60 and 255 MR (this is likely not the case for classic).

You are seeing probably 50-60% of the raid completely resist the fears based on who runs around afterwards.

A solid 25% are unfeared after about 0-6 seconds.

Another 10% are unfeared after about 7-12 seconds.

Maybe 5% are unfeared after 13-18 seconds.

The top end of the fearing duration should be very small and likely is only affecting low levels and non-MR capped people in those videos.

[Haynar]

The 20 spread was an example and not real numbers. Its not what i see for dragon roar. Still working on that. It was just to illustrate one of the problems.

H