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11-06-2012, 04:52 PM
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If you want my non-expert, guy on elf emulator forum opinion, I believe Earth isn't extraordinarily atypical. I don't believe life is so extraordinarily rare that Earth is the only place in the entire universe where it has developed into what we would consider 'intelligent life' in over 13 billion years and throughout 100 billion galaxies. I don't think the fact that we haven't tripped across extraterrestrial life within 50 years of first being able to exit our own atmosphere means much of anything at all. There are potentially sextillions of habitable planets. The universe is 13 billion years old. The sheer enormity of those numbers would suggest that Earth would have to be extraordinarily atypical to be the only planet that harbored life for long enough to produce intelligent life, and I see no reason to believe that. | |||
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11-06-2012, 05:17 PM
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In regards to the thread title are people who believe in god stupid? I tend to agree with you. And yes this is a silly debate to have on this forum but consider us just a community of people sharing opinions right now. | |||
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11-06-2012, 05:47 PM
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He also played poker with Data on Star Trek: The Next Generation, so he probably knows more than anyone about Klingons and Borg and stuff. | |||
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11-07-2012, 02:22 AM
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science is a belief system lmao, anyone who doesn't understand that is really silly.
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11-07-2012, 02:23 AM
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especially if that person purports to understand science!
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11-07-2012, 03:28 AM
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science is full of shit
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11-07-2012, 03:55 AM
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The pitfall people have fallen into here is using the two words 'faith' and 'belief' interchangeably. Faith is essentially belief without any evidence. What religion requires is faith, faith that a magical man exists somewhere controlling everything, what science requires is belief, belief that the current model is as accurate an attempt as we can currently make.
Science adjusts itself as it comes closer to an accurate model of reality, religion remains where science was 3000 years ago, where the only explanation for phenomena was the aforementioned magical man.
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11-07-2012, 05:57 AM
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science is a faith based system. every scientist doesn't review every study. sometimes scientists take things based on faith, especially from other disciplines. for instance, someone needs not understand gravity to the level that some physicists argue that it's not actually a force, but rather a side effect of other universal properties, in order to conduct an experiment on the rate of a sphere rolling down a ramp. They take it on faith. They assume, based on faith in the scientific method, that other scientists will have reviewed and repeated this or that and come up with similar results, otherwise there would be a hubub. Scientists kind of go around trying to disprove each other, so when that doesn't happen, your faith can be placed with a reasonable level of certainty even tho you have not obtained the data empirically on every given aspect of the science you're doing.
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11-07-2012, 05:59 AM
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faith and belief are absolutely not synonymous, and science is a 100% faith-based system.
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