lol ru kidding me

[iruinedyourday]

well sense you want to have no productive conversation and just nit pick everything I have to say I have to get back to work, but good luck with your flames of war.

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iran is not an Arabic nation. Second, it has a very rich and strong cultural identity/history with a sense of nationalism, similar to Turkey in that sense. Not many other Middle East countries can boast of the good governing and economic prosperity that Iran has seen, if any at all.

Iran developing from a "bad place" is more of a political narrative than a reality. You want to see developing from a bad place, or lack thereof? Pakistan. Libya. Egypt. These are the guys that need our help and guidance. Iran is going to be fine, they have been fine for hundreds of years. With or without us.

Iran is one Western banking deal away from becoming Turkey since the 80's I'd say.

just finished smiling pleasantly at this polite & accurately informative post to see IRYD's reply

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well sense you want to have no productive conversation and just nit pick everything I have to say I have to get back to work, but good luck with your flames of war.

smh fam

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

IRYD truly is a caricature.

[iruinedyourday]

Sidelle... No.

Same thread kaga calls me a extremist feminist sidelle calls me a shira law suporter.

This is my problem with REPUBLICANS which is exactly what idiot kaga is even tho he insists he is not.

Its that you idiots are so ignorant you can both look at very clear arguments and both be so fucking dumb you get conflicting wrong answers

[Pokesan]

you heard it here first folks, if you outlaw guns americans will become cannibals

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you heard it here first folks, if you outlaw guns americans will become cannibals

if you outlaw guns I literally will become a cannibal using my gun stockpile to acquire flesh

just FYI u cant shit all over the legacy of my ancestors that a theoretical great-grand-relative may or may not have fought and/or died for without me taking a bite out of you.

[iruinedyourday]

Sidelle there is a diff between gun deaths and abortions but you are two red state to figure it out.

Straight up im saying one is an idiology and the other is a reactionary decision.

You dont want people to have abortions because of your idiology.

People ARE killing innocent people with guns, many of thise deaths can be avoided with common sense laws so we are REACTING to how people are behaving and atempting to make it SAFE for everyone.

There is about ZERO chance you are going to be able to understand this though...

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sidelle there is a diff between gun deaths and abortions but you are two red state to figure it out.

Straight up im saying one is an idiology and the other is a reactionary decision.

You dont want people to have abortions because of your idiology.

People ARE killing innocent people with guns, many of thise deaths can be avoided with common sense laws so we are REACTING to how people are behaving and atempting to make it SAFE for everyone.

There is about ZERO chance you are going to be able to understand this though...

Both of those are generally viewed through an ideologic (rhymes with idiotic, coincidence?) lens. To people with such a lens often reason is treason.

In the gun control issue, proponents believe banning guns will save lives.

In the abortion control issue, proponents believe banning abortions will save lives.

Both are true. So long as the scope is limited to lives lost to guns and lives lost to abortions. The world is vastly more complicated though.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both of those are generally viewed through an ideologic (rhymes with idiotic, coincidence?) lens. To people with such a lens often reason is treason.

In the gun control issue, proponents believe banning guns will save lives.

In the abortion control issue, proponents believe banning abortions will save lives.

Both are true. So long as the scope is limited to lives lost to guns and lives lost to abortions. The world is vastly more complicated though.

Thats like saying its ideology that has us set speed limits on highways and school zones. Or its ideology that doesn't allow you to have campfires in california drought zones, or drink over the age of 18/21 years old.

No, the abortion issue comes directly from one group of people thinking killing babies is wrong, while the other side of the argument knows killing babies protects families and individuals from hardships, as well as prevents people from harming themselves to having their own illegal abortions when you outlaw it.

The democrats look at how people act, and make laws based off of that data.

Republican sides of the argument do it because they think baby killing is the devil's work and evil.

You need to understand this basic point to understand the two sides at war in our nation.

One, relies on data & is reactionary. The other Pre-emptive & ideological.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, the abortion issue comes directly from one group of people thinking killing babies is wrong, while the other side of the argument knows killing babies protects families and individuals from hardships, as well as prevents people from harming themselves to having their own illegal abortions when you outlaw it.

Kudos to you for acknowledging the truth of the act. Not a lot who will. I tend to support abortion rights because it is in the best interest of society that people who are that irresponsible do not reproduce. Procreation by such individuals is nothing more than propagation of misery.

That aside, the basis of your support is interesting. If it is acceptable to kill babies to avoid hardship, is it not also acceptable to kill your parents if they become demented and unable to care for themselves? You would be averting hardship in both cases. Or does the reasoning only apply to offspring? What if your child was hit by a motorist and paralyzed for the rest of their life? Would it not be acceptable then to kill them to avoid the hardship?

Life is full of hardship. Those who do not learn to overcome it, inherently spread it.