Forsaken is a bait and switch guild, warning to all players

[Senies]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a man of integrity who isn't afraid to call assholes out even when I know I'll lose pixels and thats exactly what happened.

Cheers

[Nixtar]

Never join a guild with a loot council unless you live the game. You will always be seen as filler. Disclaimer: Yes, there are exceptions to the rule.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Nixtar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never join a guild with a loot council unless you live the game. You will always be seen as filler. Disclaimer: Yes, there are exceptions to the rule.

Haha, yeah.. thats the crux of the issue. See I joined when there wasn't going to be a real loot council. They baited and switched the membership telling everyone there would be no loot council and now its very much a part of policy.

Everyone in Forsaken pretty much hates the loot council and knows its a giant scam or at least incredibly manipulated. Yet the officers don't give a shit that all the members have been demanding the loot council not be so oppressive and omnipresent for the best loot.

As soon as Forsaken started implementing their bait and switch policies I just stopped playing so much. Gradually stopping all together. Then I check forums occasionally.

I saw that the drama in the private forum was reaching a fever pitch so I decided to add my opinion too. Guess they were mad about the timing, and I'm mad about wasting my time on a bait and switch scam by a bunch of fraudsters.

[Morgander]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha, yeah.. thats the crux of the issue. See I joined when there wasn't going to be a real loot council. They baited and switched the membership telling everyone there would be no loot council and now its very much a part of policy.

Ignition, you applied on 6/19/2015, and were made full member 11/19/2015. We also gave special consideration for your wife, who did not have the attendance to actually go up for vote as per our rules, because we wanted to make an exception for her so the two of you did not have to play the game under separate guilds.

Our policy page is transparent. Every change on it is dated explicitly. Our loot council change was implemented on 10/21/2015, and was clearly outlined in both our primary policy page, and in a full guild meeting.

This is also irregardless. You did not hold the required raid attendance to bid on loot. According to my database, you held 22% attendance at the point of your making full member (again, an exception we made for you, as our requirement is in fact, 25%).

I still do not understand all this animosity. You're upset because you were removed from the guild. You really should let it go.

[Senies]

Originally Posted by Morgander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignition, you applied on 6/19/2015, and were made full member 11/19/2015. We also gave special consideration for your wife, who did not have the attendance to actually go up for vote as per our rules, because we wanted to make an exception for her so the two of you did not have to play the game under separate guilds.

Our policy page is transparent. Every change on it is dated explicitly. Our loot council change was implemented on 10/21/2015, and was clearly outlined in both our primary policy page, and in a full guild meeting.

This is also irregardless. You did not hold the required raid attendance to bid on loot. According to my database, you held 22% attendance at the point of your making full member (again, an exception we made for you, as our requirement is in fact, 25%).

I still do not understand all this animosity. You're upset because you were removed from the guild. You really should let it go.

so he was kicked out for voicing his option..... wow

[Morgander]

-You must have a 25% or higher 30-day raid attendance to bid on, or put in for items.

This is a quote of information taken directly from the Forsaken master policy page. The reason you could not bid on drops was because your raid attendance dipped below 25%.

This is a rule that has been instated since day one.

Ignition class 14 Wizard 305.0 19.0 0.0 324.0 12.27.15 0% (0/129) 7% (18/264) 16% (66/402) 11% (91/858)

This is also taken from your thread on the Forsaken forums. This is your accumulated attendance. The first number (0% (0/129) is your 30-day attendance, then 60, then 90, then all-time (11% (91-858)).

[Jarnauga]

You mean Forsaken mass recruited every 50+ on the server with promise of loot to everyone and couldn't award rings of destruction to every members of their 200+ roster ?

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[Hoozi]

Originally Posted by Morgander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a quote of information taken directly from the Forsaken master policy page. The reason you could not bid on drops was because your raid attendance dipped below 25%.

This is a rule that has been instated since day one.



This is also taken from your thread on the Forsaken forums. This is your accumulated attendance. The first number (0% (0/129) is your 30-day attendance, then 60, then 90, then all-time (11% (91-858)).

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How many threads do you need about this, OP? You sound like an entitled millennial.

[disenchant]

Seems like your statements are redundant, I know I've never met a person in foreskin that was kind, but aren't they number 1 raiding guild on the server (just under rampage)?
I would never app to that guild in my life because I'd never get to spend my DKP, I've been with guilds like them in the past on live and live progression servers. Never seemed right to me to not be able to spend your dkp even if you're not a "full member". if you have only 50 dkp then why shouldn't you bid on that item that only you and maybe 1 or 2 others can use, so they get it for 8 dkp when you just bid 25? that's 25 hours of your eq time you're spending but they won't let you. It's lame, their guild is lame, and they're idiots.

[Pheer]

MFW people are surprised that a guild that mass recruits at OT boat and WL rings is just using them as warm bodies to get their core/clique of ex-tmo members high end loot.

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