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Old 03-16-2016, 02:08 PM
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Minus pure cloth casters, same for any slow(Chanter/Bard). With a cleric, probably same deal. So what group build out there doesn't have a shaman, bard, enchanter or cleric?
Azeth pointed out, correctly, that not all pug groups are of ideal composition.

Don't mistake bard slow for shaman slow, also. It isn't nearly as good. Enchanter is comparable.

And if you think a cleric alone will keep a ranger up against higher level content... when it is doable, it'll cost a lot of mana and slow you down. Sometimes, it won't be.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:25 PM
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Group content is a pushover in this game though
Take away everyone's Cloak of Flames / Fungi / Tstaff / epic / full spell book / bag full of clickies / max xp and all of the content would get a lot more interesting. Not super hard, of course, but more interesting.
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:37 PM
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Bard slow doesn't rally get better than 35%.

It's still 35% better than nothing and I still preslow with my bard, but it will never hold a candle to a shaman making a mob yawn for 70-75%.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:46 PM
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Mobs haste each other, though, right?

And slow cancels haste?

So in areas with a lot of shaman, etc, any kind of slow is a pretty big deal?
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:20 PM
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If you're gonna roll a warrior as your first char, get ready for all the twinked rogues and monks to complain about your aggro. I would roll something else and save up about 5-10k to get a few nice starter pieces.
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:08 AM
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If you're gonna roll a warrior as your first char, get ready for all the twinked rogues and monks to complain about your aggro. I would roll something else and save up about 5-10k to get a few nice starter pieces.
Haha, so true.

"Why can't this warrior hold aggro?" says the rogue with epic to the 41 warrior with a Jade Mace.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:29 AM
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khanable was super nice and hooked me up with a bunch of RZ pieces and a decent weapon so I'm more set than I ever expected to be.

Thanks again Khan!

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Old 03-18-2016, 10:53 AM
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:40 AM
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If you're gonna roll a warrior as your first char, get ready for all the twinked rogues and monks to complain about your aggro. I would roll something else and save up about 5-10k to get a few nice starter pieces.
Good rogues evade (or turn off attack for a few swings if it fails and you catch aggro)
Good monks feign.

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