****OFFICAL**** Trump Hillary Debate 2016.09.26 Thread****

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we can just cut government by like 25% , instead of growing it. I'll consider this the most "Done" , in a long time.

Well good, we agree on that in general. I'd look for a greater figure (~50% or more), but I'm pretty minimalist when it comes to govt. But I recognize we would need to ease our way to such a point.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Sorry bros I quit all drugs , accept: Alcohol.

I need to live to 70 so my retirement investments pay off fully.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well good, we agree on that in general. I'd look for a greater figure, but I'm pretty minimalist when it comes to govt. But I recognize we would need to easy our way out.

Exactly. Now if only we took that Oil , like Trump said... I think it could've been a start =p

[AzzarTheGod]

Had a bunch of ADHD cases around me barely caught anything.

Hillary looked really good, and so did Trump was the gist I got in the haze of interruptions. Impressed with both.

[AzzarTheGod]

One thing that caught me was the moderator was allowed to fact-check.

Trump held his composure pretty well, no "excuse me" snapping like in the GOP. And overall did what he needed to do.

I only saw Trump being fact-checked, which irked me. And the moderator was only pressing Trump during questions where Trump would dodge. Trump dodged a few times, and the moderator would attempt to cut him off, or zero in on it.

This really irked me as someone hoping for no interference or Candy Crowley help, but its all that stands out right now.

[Karkona]

I watched the whole thing. I thought Trump was going to destroy her but it didn't seem to go that way he had to play a lot of defense. Hillary had clearly put work into being prepared and had a long pre-determined grocery list answer for almost everything she knew that was going to come up like her "stamina" at the end.

The best part was when Lester Holt asked Trump when he would release his tax return and Trump said he would do it after Hillary released her 33,000 deleted emails and the crowd started clapping and cheering lol.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. Now if only we took that Oil , like Trump said... I think it could've been a start =p

Well take it or keep it. He said take, but his explanations were more along the lines of keep it rather than handing it over to these terrorist groups.

What is the solution after the fact? We can't go back and say never import mid-east oil disallowing them to grow the industry there, that's a done deal. Would be ideal, but it is what it is now. The only real solution w/o compromise ... well sort of ... is to wipe it all out. But then even that is no solution in all honesty, a moral compromise. But even if that was an acceptable solution, they are still wealthy, capable of rebuilding and/or retaliation as would be the obvious reprisal.

What do we do, enslave them like Bubba did with Iraq? Food for oil? (yes started by Bush, a globalist neocon) Then how Germany and france fought tooth and nail to keep those sanctions going for all that wonderful plunder?

It's really all a facepalm mess. So Trump want's to fight the terrorists, what other solution do we have? Apart from surrender anyway.... I'm no fan of Sharia law. And fighting them isn't even a take or keep it solution. And what he's saying about it is NATO needs to step up on it, as they haven't. I mean really, NATO has been too busy posturing against Russia if you have been following it, and it's deteriorating FAST.

No, there are a lot of things going on that is not on the lips of MSM, all just as much rigged as the Demcon and these debates (though Trump still did great and clobbered crooked Hillary). We really are in a very bad position on the board (be it chess or go). Our primary concern before anything else needs to be our national defense, with the borders and who is here that should not be here.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Karkona [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I watched the whole thing. I thought Trump was going to destroy her but it didn't seem to go that way he had to play a lot of defense. Hillary had clearly put work into being prepared and had a long pre-determined grocery list answer for almost everything she knew that was going to come up like her "stamina" at the end.

The best part was when Lester Holt asked Trump when he would release his tax return and Trump said he would do it after Hillary released her 33,000 deleted emails and the crowd started clapping and cheering lol.

Hillary was absolutely well-prepared. That's what stood out to me and started to anger the ADHD cases around me I think. Her poise probably could not have been more perfect. She moved correctly on just about every issue. The Trump guys were going crazy, as you can probably imagine... (I'm pro-Trump but not a Trump goon, especially not during a debate where its expected both sides are going to bring their A game).

Trump did not destroy her, and when he did attack, it was treading on the weak side of things. It was firm, but it wasn't the destruction that the Trumpettes anticipated.

We really need a highlight reel or some highlights to discuss this in more detail so we have some illustrations, give it a few days.

[R Flair]

Oh Trump snapped at the moderator with excuse me and various other remarks several times - and rightfully so. Trump corrected him with actual facts and clarifications on several occasions.

Debate was meant to be a ringer for Hillary, but Trump still dominated it. Simply parroting memorized lines like a robot and attempting to be cool and collective doesn't win you the debate this year. Hillarys policies are horrible and she is a proven failure in politics so its just not possible for her to be perceived as the winner. In almost every debate poll, Trump is ahead by a landslide.

CNBC: Trump 61%, Hillary 39%
Time: Trump 58%, Hillary 42%
Fortune: Trump 51, Hillary 49%
Heavy: Trump 71%, Hillary 26%
Wa. Times: Trump 71%, Hillary 24%, Neither 4%, Lester Holt 2%
The Hill: Trump 59%, Hillary 36%
Vox: Trump 59%, Hillary 36%

Won't even point to far right sites.

The most hilarious part is CNN's fake poll showing a Hillary landslide victory that is prevalent in almost every article about the debate. Every major media site is quoting CNNs fake numbers and refusing to put up a real poll people can vote on.

This is indicative of what to expect in the election though. Trump has huge support behind him and no amount of polling a list of X of each party will ever show it.

[AzzarTheGod]

Interesting poll numbers. I will definitely be pulling a torrent later and going over it. I didn't catch much because things heated up in the room, as I said, but the "excuse me" that I did catch wasn't Jeb-bashing quality, and that's what I meant.

Just wanted to clarify. Trump was tempered. The moderator was bashing him. If Hillary was bashed I didn't see it.