Rotation RNF Thread

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Kagey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why were you guys in VP when rustle broke it?? fucking guy lol

The same reason you were. To congrats us on Crown / Robe I assume.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same reason you were. To congrats us on Crown / Robe I assume.

lol

[Speedi]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the FACTS.

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we get handed ToV loot?

wut?

I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.

Originally Posted by Stormfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has Awakened actually ever dominated anything though? Not really.

Rampage > All.

Stop putting Taken in the mix of guilds who actually mattered and/or accomplished anything.

That's pretty accurate. I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets. We was hoping the smaller guilds would have a better chance. But we all know what happened there as well. To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics. Also I am not blaming my Rampage pals, I guess its goes back to the old saying "If you hang around dogs long enough your going to catch fleas"

As for Rampage we dominated Velious then once we got tired of killing the same target over and over we decided to call it quits. Some AFK'd for a while (like myself) some quit for good. Want proof you say? Just look at the server first Vulak kill, and see how many of those Rampage are still around.

The ones that wanted to continue raiding voted on a new guild name and all my Rampage pals and Taken merged to form a new guild called Awakened. The leadership was voted on also. I refused to go over to the fact the very few times I ever had problems with people on this server it was someone with a Taken tag. I know every guild has their problem child, and no guild is perfect. But facts are facts.

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right. Since Taken never raided hardcore, for the guild to survive they needed it. I can remember in Rampage a full recharge session costing 300-400k for a full week, sometimes more. Hell Sontalak alone (which Rampage killed every week) was 200k or so recharge. Taken didn't have that kind of resources to do that every week.

To put it into perspective on how bad Taken was ... I can remember towards the end of Rampage, Taken wanting to help Rampage out on Sontalak, we quickly told them "Thanks but NO thanks!" This was because we couldn't depend on Taken not getting low HP agro and flipping the dragon and getting us killed. Later on I remember another time we actually let Taken help out when we was low on numbers. Let me tell you it was a shitshow. Sontalak flipping all over because Taken members not being prepared to stay alive during the fight. Then another time, we asked a select few of their members. We got the Sontalak killed, with like 10 or so Taken. Basically the ones we hand picked and could count on, Eratani was one of them. If I recall correctly that was the last time we ever asked them.

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are. So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP. If the truth is known they are STILL carrying them till this day, but I cant confirm that since I am not in the guild. What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true. This is nothing personal, its just the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts right?

Love,

Speedi

[Flux]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the biased and misinformed FACTS to indulge a deeply rooted resentment that I hold towards a Class R guild that disappeared 12 months ago, despite my claim to have moved on with life.

Love,

Speedi

fixed.

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Flux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fixed.

Its ok classic spin team in the works, Rather than post facts, you resort to this.

Just shows the people that what I posted is the truth. Better luck next time

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.

You are probably right. Taken would not have gotten the experience inside Temple of Veeshan if it were not for Rampage. Point? I don't see one. I, along with many other ex Taken, are very grateful for the fun we had with Rampage. It's why we thought Awakened was a great idea. Turns out it was.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets.

Taken did everything they accomplished on their own prior to Velious, and even for awhile during Velious. We were very content with our progress. We went from super casual to somewhat casual to somewhat hardcore. Talk about building from the ground up. We competed for what we wanted and didn't ask for hand outs. If we wanted to compete on an FFA mob, we did. If we didn't, we didn't. So, because we didn't compete in the VP shit show, we were not relevant? I'm sorry you live in the past. Both IB and TMO no longer exist. Sure, they deserve their props for what they accomplished during their time, but I don't see them around now.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics.

I find it funny when people try to diminish Awakened by calling us Taken. Shows ignorance. Anyway, yes, we do kill Fear Golems and VS. Why? Because of Puppet Strings, Amulet of Necropotences, and Gnarled Staves. That's it. We compete on roughly one VS a month. That's about 10% of them. We also normally award these staves to whoever was tracking it. In the past 6 kills, that was 3 Mains. Mains who, as you said, have been waiting for years for their epic. We compete on Fear Golems now that they drop the loot that used to only be on Cazic Thule. This goes back to the point Daldaen made about Veeshan's Peak. There are always going to be highly sought after items that are just too rare to stop going for. Know what the funny part about this is? Aftermath competes on all of these as well. I guess that doesn't play into your motive for posting though.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right.

Maybe you are misinformed, or maybe you are just spewing propaganda. Either way, the "facts" are that the guild bank was a 50/50 split on platinum. Taken was asked what their bank had, and Rampage matched it. A few months later, Hokushin did add an additional 500k to the bank. For that, and the original split, I (we) are grateful. Never implied we weren't.

Items? I don't believe we got any Bladestoppers from Rampage, as they were all mostly privately owned. Seeing as we have 4 *guild* lockets, I don't believe more than 1 of those came from Rampage, though there are members with personal ones. I do believe we got a decent amount of Prayers from their bank. Probably roughly 50% of our guild ones. Though again, there are personally owned ones.

All of these items, as well as the platinum, we are appreciative of, but these are the facts.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are.

Taken absolutely killed contested Velious mobs. Maybe not ones that were priority to Rampage, though I don't really know, but I didn't know Rampage was the only guild in Velious. Maybe the only dominant one, but that doesn't mean there isn't competition elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP.

You are probably right that ex Rampage carried a lot of the weight in terms of strategy and geared players at first. I will say that the tracking load was shared.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true.

This could be said about any pair of guilds that merged. Rustle would be nothing without the ex IB/Rampage that came back to the game to carry them. Aftermath would be nothing without the assistance they got from Asgard. I don't buy that Awakened would be *nothing*, but I agree Awakened (beyond the fact of not existing, still being called Taken) would not be the top guild on the server. However, at this point, as was said by someone else, Awakened is far from just ex-TRamps. Many, many of our top contributors are Awakened through and through.

Finally, I don't know who you are referencing about acting smug, though I am sure, as with every guild, there are smug people in Awakened. However, at this point in Awakened, the success is completely in the hands of Awakened members. I don't think many of us are overly prideful. I believe most of us are just the right amount. As Detoxx implied, every week is a new week. Being great this week has nothing to do with being great last week, or bad for that matter. There are some people who believe we dominate every week, and sure, they are probably a little overly satisfied with our kill lists, but they earned it. They are the ones who make it happen. Not ex Rampage, not ex Taken, but Awakened.

In the end, most, if not all, of us are grateful for everything Rampage did for the formation of Awakened, but we have been self sufficient and self accomplished for quite some time. If you can't acknowledge that then you are either resentful, jealous, possibly brain washed, or just plain trolling.

[Speedi]

First off, I do commend you on a nice well written post.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are probably right. Taken would not have gotten the experience inside Temple of Veeshan if it were not for Rampage. Point? I don't see one. I, along with many other ex Taken, are very grateful for the fun we had with Rampage. It's why we thought Awakened was a great idea. Turns out it was.

Sure it was a great idea! IMO it would be a bad idea if someone pulls up along side someone's pinto and offered to give them a Ferrari and they did not take it

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken did everything they accomplished on their own prior to Velious, and even for awhile during Velious. We were very content with our progress. We went from super casual to somewhat casual to somewhat hardcore. Talk about building from the ground up. We competed for what we wanted and didn't ask for hand outs. If we wanted to compete on an FFA mob, we did. If we didn't, we didn't. So, because we didn't compete in the VP shit show, we were not relevant?

Like I previously stated, for me it wouldn't be a problem if you guys didn't act all smug, but that's a topic for another day. Competing and actually constantly killing something is two different things. So why you brought that up I am not sure.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it funny when people try to diminish Awakened by calling us Taken. Shows ignorance. Anyway, yes, we do kill Fear Golems and VS. Why? Because of Puppet Strings, Amulet of Necropotences, and Gnarled Staves. That's it. We compete on roughly one VS a month. That's about 10% of them. We also normally award these staves to whoever was tracking it. In the past 6 kills, that was 3 Mains. Mains who, as you said, have been waiting for years for their epic. We compete on Fear Golems now that they drop the loot that used to only be on Cazic Thule. This goes back to the point Daldaen made about Veeshan's Peak. There are always going to be highly sought after items that are just too rare to stop going for. Know what the funny part about this is? Aftermath competes on all of these as well. I guess that doesn't play into your motive for posting though.

I was not part of Aftermath. I was part of IB/Rampage. The bad part of Awakened IS Taken. Like I stated before in my post. I can count on one hand the amount of times I have had problems with people on this server. And what do you know, all of them were Taken.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you are misinformed, or maybe you are just spewing propaganda. Either way, the "facts" are that the guild bank was a 50/50 split on platinum. Taken was asked what their bank had, and Rampage matched it. A few months later, Hokushin did add an additional 500k to the bank. For that, and the original split, I (we) are grateful. Never implied we weren't.

Items? I don't believe we got any Bladestoppers from Rampage, as they were all mostly privately owned. Seeing as we have 4 *guild* lockets, I don't believe more than 1 of those came from Rampage, though there are members with personal ones. I do believe we got a decent amount of Prayers from their bank. Probably roughly 50% of our guild ones. Though again, there are personally owned ones.

All of these items, as well as the platinum, we are appreciative of, but these are the facts.

Its possible that some things was exaggerated. But off the top of my head I remember several million platinum, strings, and stoppers.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken absolutely killed contested Velious mobs. Maybe not ones that were priority to Rampage, though I don't really know, but I didn't know Rampage was the only guild in Velious. Maybe the only dominant one, but that doesn't mean there isn't competition elsewhere.

What? Lodizal (who you still farm every time its about to spawn) Kelorek`Dar & Keldor Dek`Torek? I mean you wasn't killing Klandicar - Zlandicar - Yelinak, anything in ToV? You surly didn't have any major target on farm status. I think you killed KT once or twice. And oh yea you killed Vindi often. Sorry I was wrong, totally forgot you had Vindi on lockdown

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are probably right that ex Rampage carried a lot of the weight in terms of strategy and geared players at first. I will say that the tracking load was shared.

Well at least you do admit that, kudos to you.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This could be said about any pair of guilds that merged. Rustle would be nothing without the ex IB/Rampage that came back to the game to carry them. Aftermath would be nothing without the assistance they got from Asgard. I don't buy that Awakened would be *nothing*, but I agree Awakened (beyond the fact of not existing, still being called Taken) would not be the top guild on the server. However, at this point, as was said by someone else, Awakened is far from just ex-TRamps. Many, many of our top contributors are Awakened through and through.

FYI Rustle IS Ex IB/Rampage with a few BDA and some newer recruits whom we are blessed to have. And sure, I am sure your Taken guys are helping out more after all my Rampage pals have been carrying them all this time. I would hope they would catch on by now.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finally, I don't know who you are referencing about acting smug, though I am sure, as with every guild, there are smug people in Awakened. However, at this point in Awakened, the success is completely in the hands of Awakened members. I don't think many of us are overly prideful. I believe most of us are just the right amount. As Detoxx implied, every week is a new week. Being great this week has nothing to do with being great last week, or bad for that matter. There are some people who believe we dominate every week, and sure, they are probably a little overly satisfied with our kill lists, but they earned it. They are the ones who make it happen.

In the end, most, if not all, of us are grateful for everything Rampage did for the formation of Awakened, but we have been self sufficient and self accomplished for quite some time.

Good statement and I wont say anything about it /salute

And FYI I have many friends in Awakened. Some of my closest friends in game. But I will admit most are my old Rampage pals. Some Taken people are my favorite, like Rootum for example. Awesome guy whom I love to hang out with.

And we cant forget Sweeni! He is absolutely my best friend in game, I would quit playing if I wasn't able to talk to Sweeni on a daily basis!



In closing I will say even though we disagree on some points, you don't try to spin much. I respect that, and I also respect the fact that you done your best to be honest rather than just tell outright lies. /salute

[topgun1027]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the FACTS.




I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.




That's pretty accurate. I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets. We was hoping the smaller guilds would have a better chance. But we all know what happened there as well. To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics. Also I am not blaming my Rampage pals, I guess its goes back to the old saying "If you hang around dogs long enough your going to catch fleas"

As for Rampage we dominated Velious then once we got tired of killing the same target over and over we decided to call it quits. Some AFK'd for a while (like myself) some quit for good. Want proof you say? Just look at the server first Vulak kill, and see how many of those Rampage are still around.

The ones that wanted to continue raiding voted on a new guild name and all my Rampage pals and Taken merged to form a new guild called Awakened. The leadership was voted on also. I refused to go over to the fact the very few times I ever had problems with people on this server it was someone with a Taken tag. I know every guild has their problem child, and no guild is perfect. But facts are facts.

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right. Since Taken never raided hardcore, for the guild to survive they needed it. I can remember in Rampage a full recharge session costing 300-400k for a full week, sometimes more. Hell Sontalak alone (which Rampage killed every week) was 200k or so recharge. Taken didn't have that kind of resources to do that every week.

To put it into perspective on how bad Taken was ... I can remember towards the end of Rampage, Taken wanting to help Rampage out on Sontalak, we quickly told them "Thanks but NO thanks!" This was because we couldn't depend on Taken not getting low HP agro and flipping the dragon and getting us killed. Later on I remember another time we actually let Taken help out when we was low on numbers. Let me tell you it was a shitshow. Sontalak flipping all over because Taken members not being prepared to stay alive during the fight. Then another time, we asked a select few of their members. We got the Sontalak killed, with like 10 or so Taken. Basically the ones we hand picked and could count on, Eratani was one of them. If I recall correctly that was the last time we ever asked them.

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are. So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP. If the truth is known they are STILL carrying them till this day, but I cant confirm that since I am not in the guild. What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true. This is nothing personal, its just the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts right?

Love,

Speedi

Just the truth that your eye's and ears know. That is all I read here. 100% accurate ? Negative.

[Metalopolis]

Originally Posted by Kagey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why were you guys in VP when rustle broke it?? fucking guy lol

We weren't in VP. We moved there to contest when your guild wiped to Silverwing with over 60 Velious geared players.