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Old 07-16-2017, 03:57 PM
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Can NPC's only proc on hits? I'm sure I've had sonic bats proc on me when they miss while under evasive, but I haven't looked at this in detail.
That's an interesting question. What if the npc in question isn't 'procing' and is actually using an instant cast spell that has a cooldown? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Told this to Rogean, Nilbog & Menden.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:47 PM
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Hackattack: Do you have logs showing a double proc with a double attack?

OP: You might be interested to know the off hand can proc even when duel wield fails to produce a swing. This is more important at low levels where duel wield is at a much lower skill.
Interesting. So it's not true that double attack increases proc rate? That's a bit of a bummer. However, it's interesting that a weapon can proc in the offhand slot even when the weapon doesn't swing.

So, if I'm level 15 and I have a venomous axe and a Lammy, would it be more beneficial to have Lammy in my main hand and the axe in my offhand, or should I keep the axe in my main hand for more procs? They have a pretty similar ratio, but I think Lammy edges it out just a bit.
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:50 PM
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At that level stick best ratio in primary, which is lammy anyway. When the axe in off hand swings or procs that's just a bonus. If it swings and proc you won the lottery :P.


Also, on the double attack thing I don't know. I didn't ask for logs because I think it can't be proved, but rather because I don't know either way.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:12 PM
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The amount of swings, riposte or otherwise, do not affect the proc rate. It's based on time duration, and the rate or amount of swings do not matter.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:30 PM
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lots of random opinions in this thread and no proof of anything given yet...
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:54 AM
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Off hand proc on delay elapsing even when no swing produce is well documented.

Here are a few excerpts from a low level warrior off handing a polished granite tomahawk.

[Wed Mar 29 19:48:13 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:15 2017] You crush a deepwater caiman for 30 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!

[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] Your will is not sufficient to command this weapon.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] You crush a deepwater caiman for 3 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to kick YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!

[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] Auto attack is on.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] You crush a deepwater crocodile for 28 points of damage.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:40 2017] A deepwater crocodile tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:40 2017] A deepwater crocodile tries to bite YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!

[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] You are unstunned.
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] A caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] You kick a caiman for 1 point of damage.7

And just to show it still works after the most recent patch:

[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] You crush a forest giant evergreen for 32 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] You try to crush a forest giant evergreen, but miss!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] Kynzo strikes a forest giant evergreen for 6 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:36 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] Vonarn tries to crush a forest giant evergreen, but misses!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] Vonarn tries to crush a forest giant evergreen, but misses!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] You crush a forest giant evergreen for 29 points of damage.


I'll try capture a double proc on double attack too now, but I haven't had any luck yet.
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