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Old 11-30-2017, 09:09 AM
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Studies have shown that effect in women. I'll link you a YouTube vid on it when I get off work.
i didn't miss this vidya link did I? i was curious ^^
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:35 PM
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i didn't miss this vidya link did I? i was curious ^^
Sorry, I think it's Abby Pollock - Is intermittent fasting safe for women? Has some interesting information in it but her format is all over the place in that video.

What's neat is there's a sexual dimorphic response to fasting.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:37 AM
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A lot of marketing jargon in here. Strict diabetic diet, and your body will normalize over time. Avoid fructose, and exercise mildly.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:36 AM
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A lot of marketing jargon in here. Strict diabetic diet, and your body will normalize over time. Avoid fructose, and exercise mildly.
That's all I see, too. ^

I aint saying it's useless information but like the person from France touched on, "why do Americans do this?" Good question. Why are Americans the most obese, and why do they have all these complicated dieting plans?

Much of the dieting information shared in this thread has been dessiminated via marketing plans/scams created not to make people healthy but to make the marketers billions of dollars. Which they do.

The ideas behind these specialized diets are just taking rudimentary knowledge and complicating it by adding a bunch of intellectual sounding jargon to make people think they are smart when they read it and share it.

That's why the semi-snarky comment Cecily made in the very beginning actually is the soundest advice; burn more than you put in. That's really as simple and true as you can get when it comes to keeping a healthy weight for a normal healthy person. It goes without saying, you should eat the proper amount of protein, and veggies, etc. for optimal health. Avoiding processed sugars is always a healthy idea too.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:04 AM
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That's all I see, too. ^

I aint saying it's useless information but like the person from France touched on, "why do Americans do this?" Good question. Why are Americans the most obese, and why do they have all these complicated dieting plans?
A lot, I think, stems from the late 70's low fat craze where low fat (and consequently higher sugar) items are pushed, in addition to the workout craze being pushed. Not only did people start eating foods that were worse for them, but with the fitness craze people became bombarded with this idea that if you were slightly overweight you were lazy and useless, increasing stress, and pushing people to overeat even more. There's no doubt that if you can stick to a eating regimen and workout routine like JD laid out you can lose weight, but statistics say that the average person in the USA just can't do it.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:30 PM
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I like having first breakfast when I wake, something simple like a round of toast. I'll then have second breakfast for some porridge with salted butter and a couple of handfuls of berries. Third breakfast will be something cooked or a cold meat/cheese spread. I sometimes skip third breakfast, but I will normally have a fruit after that for fourth breakfast. Bananas are great.

At this point it is time for elevensies, usually a hot drink and perhaps some toast with fruit spread, a small cake or occasionally something savoury if I am out of the house.

Lunch is used to load up on veg, but with some meat or eggs too. A fruit based pudding with a side of icecream is usual. Afternoon tea means another hot drink and some sandwiches or cake.

Dinner or supper next, depending on the size of lunch. Either curry or chilly with rice, or something more like a salad, possibly with soup and sandwich. Usually followed by a light treat, such as fruited yoghurt or moose.

Evening snacks might be some corn crisps and some wine or fruit cordial.

During the day avoid sitting down, try to keep moving.
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I like having first breakfast when I wake, something simple like a round of toast. I'll then have second breakfast for some porridge with salted butter and a couple of handfuls of berries. Third breakfast will be something cooked or a cold meat/cheese spread. I sometimes skip third breakfast, but I will normally have a fruit after that for fourth breakfast. Bananas are great.

At this point it is time for elevensies, usually a hot drink and perhaps some toast with fruit spread, a small cake or occasionally something savoury if I am out of the house.

Lunch is used to load up on veg, but with some meat or eggs too. A fruit based pudding with a side of icecream is usual. Afternoon tea means another hot drink and some sandwiches or cake.

Dinner or supper next, depending on the size of lunch. Either curry or chilly with rice, or something more like a salad, possibly with soup and sandwich. Usually followed by a light treat, such as fruited yoghurt or moose.

Evening snacks might be some corn crisps and some wine or fruit cordial.

During the day avoid sitting down, try to keep moving.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:42 PM
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Meth makes for a good diet too.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:54 PM
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https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:30 PM
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The reason I would be reluctant is because I hear that fasting can trigger the dreaded metabolic slowdown where you hang on to fat and metabolism slows (energy drops too). But if its a whole well-researched method that's working for people -- more power to them.

Despite weird claims I'm handing out marketing advice -- I mostly keep it pretty conservative and non-trendy for diets. This is after doing Atkins as a young adult and finally falling off the wagon.

The conservative way to do it -- is to just eat what you need to get the your nutrients and metabolism up (depends on age but around 1300 usually). If your doing this -- it will be extremely hard to eat anything like Spaghetti or Frenchbread or Both. It just takes too much calories for something that doesn't give you nutrients or fill you up. You will feel like eating a lot more white dinner rolls than the 100% whole wheat version.

IN ADDITION -- White (White Rice*, Potatos, Pasta) flour gives energy spikes. Whole wheat bread by contrast will not spike your blood sugar as much. Small meals 5-6 times a day has been shown to keep most people's energy relatively steady. This is all important because it prevents hunger spikes and weird emotional outbursts. Personally I wouldn't eat tons of bad carbs even I could get away with it because it makes it hard to keep your fiber right. Which means its hard to keep dry regular stools. Which means now that whole area is fucked up.

This intermittent fasting sounds like a bad one if you ever want to strength train for big muscles though (therefore probably bad for Endomorphs). You want your body to be absorbing protein as much as possible -- it can only take in so much at once. I'm going to go ahead and guess you don't see a lot of football players or bodybuilders on this one.

*White Rice is the lowest carbs out of all the big white empty carbs. So I think its OK in moderation for In-shape people. Just not for weight loss.
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