Some of you got your wish

[Patriam1066]

Is everyone on this forum an autistic white millennial above 6' in height?

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is everyone on this forum an autistic white millennial above 6' in height?

no im 5'10"

[JurisDictum]

Their probably drugging our food to make us taller and more gay.

Seriously...I don't remember Kale...Where did this shit come from? The wiki says the middle ages. Bullshit..the ivented that stuff. It's too perfect for a vegetable. Light, full of protein, no gas issues. Fucking Bullshit GMO

[Ahldagor]

Maye they don't want city services having to drive all over for corpses?

Seriously tho', opium and its derivatives are more addictive than anything on the planet. Too much money being made for sensical regulation tho'.

[Lulz~Sect]

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[JurisDictum]

I don't really think one drug is far more addictive than another. It's more like people that like heroine get into a more hopeless cycle than people that like pot or beer.

It doesn't take very long to get addicted to alcohol. Low grade alcoholism is common -- where they don't drink a lot bit they need that drink in the evening.

People addict to all kinds of things. Games, gambling...the physiological elements are kind of the minor part...you just need to dry out and that part goes away in a few weeks.

Its the reason people like living on a certain drug -- that's the hard addiction part. And its very much a psychology/environment game.

Heroine doesn't turn people into heroine addicts -- it turns heroine addicts into shit.

[Lemonhead]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have you ever done heroin or are you LARPing its pretty addictive man. if you don't think a chemical can be addictive go snort some MXE and get back to me lol. habitual and chemical addictions are not the same, though both can simultaneously exist. idk wake me up when people start getting pot dependency withdrawls.

I've never done H, but opiates in general are a whole different animal. It is because they mimic the natural chemical(s) related to reward so well (most drugs do this to some degree). Our body naturally pumps us with this stuff when we do something good, like make more humans.

Then this is coupled with the way the body reacts when it's taken away (dependence).

Not everyone will be susceptible to an opiate addiction equally. I find those with anxiety and depression especially will LOVE the way an opiate feels. It's like they are reborn into someone new, and many will prefer therapeutic doses and you'll never know. That's a sign they are lacking chemically somewhere in the brain, and the opiate is filling it. Most opiate addicts aren't "junkies" btw.

Of course, this doesn't last as the body fights against it's reward system being broken down. The reward system in the brain is a big part of what we are and how we got here. It's a battle against millions of years of evolution.

The dependency feeds the underlying depression, the pathways become more and more locked into "I need this to be happy." It's a vicious circle, and you Literally develop a second voice that is more convincing than fricken God. And it's because you've replaced the essence of what being human is with this little pill. And you will never love anything again quite like it, especially yourself. So, don't do it. =)

If you like that shit and do it every once in a while, you are living every addicts story. You think you have absolute control, but things can change, something goes wrong, you gain easy access. Anyways, this is getting long and rambling and I could write about this all day. And yes, this does describe a lot of addictions, but opiates are just so fricken good at it.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you suffer a horrible accident and get addicted to pain meds. Then I hope the doctor notices your drug seeking behavior and cuts you off like the worthless drug addict you are. But hey you have a decent job and know a guy who sells pills so whatever. Then your money runs low and you have to seek other alternatives. Then I hope you end up in a ditch chocking on your own vomit from a fentanyl overdose, doesnt take much! Fuck you.

This is the route it takes so often. Go to a jail, ask people how they began heroin, and almost every time you get "I started on pills."

Heroin is quite cheap in comparison naturally if the pill supply is cut off an addict is going to find a solution to their addiction.

Spyder, you can't take one example of your brother getting off drugs from going to jail as proof jail is good for people. Just be thankful, you are fortunate and so is he.

Lots of different factors involved when it comes to how individuals handle drug addictions and just because one person goes to jail and stops after jail and another doesn't isn't proof that the one who continues doing drugs after jail doesn't want to stop.

As for giving free drug paraphernalia, it isn't encouraging the drug addict to do more drugs. The fact is they are going to do drugs regardless if needles are clean or are needles they found dirty/used in a toilet somewhere.

Providing clean needles could possibly save not just the user from contracting a disease, but also those who they may meet in the future, someone they may end up in a relationship with. It could save a family from losing a loved one. etc. etc.

I have no idea how people confuse drug paraphernalia centers as drug use encouragement centers.

[Lemonhead]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spyder, you can't take one example of your brother getting off drugs from going to jail as proof jail is good for people. Just be thankful, you are fortunate and so is he.

Yes, in general, this has been proven wrong. The true addict doesn't need to stop the drug so much as he needs to heal his mind. The underlying cause of the addiction is much more compelling than the drug itself. And jail isn't the best place to be re-writing healthy neural pathways.

Most come out and use again eventually. And most deaths are from people with lowered tolerance misjudging dosages.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have you ever done heroin or are you LARPing its pretty addictive man. if you don't think a chemical can be addictive go snort some MXE and get back to me lol. habitual and chemical addictions are not the same, though both can simultaneously exist. idk wake me up when people start getting pot dependency withdrawls.

IDK if its "just as bad" on a chemical level. But all this stuff is similar to pot addiction. Yes, if you smoke everyday for a long time and stop -- you not sleep, you will not be hungry, you might even be sick, you will irritable, shaky and sweaty.

Heroin withdraw is worse. It lasts longer and its more intense. When your on heroin, you are useless. Being useless for long periods of time followed by intense withdraw is likely to cause what exactly? Very desperate behavior. There obviously going to be out of money and their whole body is screaming for heroin.

I'm not saying heroin addiction isn't worse. It's more that I'm saying the mechanisms work similarly. In fact, they suggest trying to pick up pot to quit heroin these days.

In Vietnam, heroine addict soldiers that came home and went through withdraw mostly stopped...except a minority of addicts. They were addicts before they took that drug. 100%. That's all I'm saying. Or they would dry out and quit.

Who here knows a heroin addict that didn't dry out at least once? I mean -- if that's you needed, to dry out and let your brain start rewiring itself, then jail is a good solution.

But, if that really doesn't help the long term addiction...its a waste of resources isn't it?