Our neighbor Detoxx, or is it, Mr. Toxxic?

[mefdinkins]

bring back FTE races and 1 hour windows.

[srgraham69]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks

AW had also already looted one of the items. Server staff will only transfer looted items to other players on the kill log of that dragon, which none of AM were.

[RedXIII]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If all the logs and stuff are true ...

Btw, this is a totally neutral opinion, I don't care for either entity. This is coming from someone that has raided on p99 in the past and I know major raid decisions are not done instantly. It takes time to examine all the facts and then make a decision. In the past the guild(s) I have been in have broke rules, and then admitted doing so and turned over the loot and that was the end of it. I don't see what the big deal is here. Vulak didn't drop what you wanted so you take it out on your competition? That kind of thinking don't make sense. Moving on ...

Detoxx speaks to AW leadership about concession at 22:08, then Detoxx disappears after 22:20, then finally reappears again at 22:32. The disappearance tells me he wasn't to concerned about making a deal at all. But AW offered all loot to AM, and mentioned some item may have to be moved by a GM. But after seeing the loot Detoxx declines this offer. Hell AW even done the work for them (killed Vulak) and Detoxx still declines.

I think Detoxx is trying to kill the competition by getting them suspended again so he can have the raid scene to himself. I think Sirken is smart enough to see through Detoxx's scheme.

Also, Merlian (Diamondfist) the truth of why the sleeper was woke is mostly because everyone was tired, we had killed everything tons of times, the core of the membership didn't want to keep going when a lot of our members was burning out. It's not a big secret. So don't make up BS tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff okay? Thanks

Great post. Miss you bro.

Wizard > Druid! <3

[Mockba1980]

lol

[Nixtar]

Sirken should just despawn all raid targets for 30 days. If these man-children misbehaves again increase it to 60 days. After that, permanently ban every single account associated with the offending guilds(yes, guilds).

[radda]

It’s bit that bad

[radda]

Originally Posted by radda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s bit that bad

Meant not but w/e

[roboshaman]

AW won't die but will probably reform/merge. And whoever recommended the name "Woke" is a genius.

I, in my meager insignificance, approve of that guild title.

[pogs4ever]

root the dragons

[Loke]

Blows my mind how much good will AW is able to squander. Go back and look at that suspension thread - look how many AM people were on AW's side saying it was a BS suspension. A lot of AM was actually excited for AW to come off raid suspension, but very first week back you guys have to get all sketchy.

I'm not talking about Bruize either - mistakes happen and its not a big deal as long as it is made right. What I'm talking about is how you guys handled it. You offer the loot, which we all know AW would never accept from AM. A full day later you offer 2 Vulaks, which again, numerous past instances show is something AW would likely not accept (e.g. demanding tears, unrelated mobs, etc). Then you come to RnF and make a post about AM's guild leader, like he's at fault and unreasonable for not being grateful for your incremental bullshit offers.

Eratani, maybe the issue isn't that we remember the past, but that you apparently don't. You can't demand to be treated fairly when you've got a history of treating others unfairly. Say AM accepts the offer of the loot, or the two Vulaks - what in your history of dealing with AM should lead us to believe that you'll remember that treat AM fairly next time roles are reversed?