Bin Laden's dead

[gnomishfirework]

You people are all idiots.

[Klyre]

Originally Posted by gnomishfirework [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You people are all idiots.

Fish swim in water......um whats your point?

[Splooie]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans... thinking justice is done by killing another human being. That's why this stupid country we call America will always be at war.

I think you probably just see a bunch of people happy about something and have to, by default, go the other way with it. The interwebs is full of these "if you're for it, I'm against it" people today.

[Rhambuk]

back on topic.

I have never been a very patriotic person, nor do I consider myself to be one now. Thinking back to that day I am pretty disappointed with the way I reacted when I first heard the news and over the course of 10 years I have strongly been against the war.

Turning on the news last night when I arrived at work and listening to President Obama's speech I felt good, not because we had just killed a man who had wronged us but that everyone who had lost someone or something in the attack may feel some relief after 10 years.

Today I feel more American than I ever have in my life, I am still not a very patriotic person nor do I support the war. I feel a certain sense of connection with every person I meet, that we share a common emotion a sense of righteous accomplishment.

The last few years in this country have been difficult for many people. The economy going down with the price of everything going up a lot of people have been down in a slump, and though it doesn't seem great to rally around the death of a man but finally there is something to bring us together and make us remember what it means to be an American.

That's what I'm happy about,

After school special off, rant on

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Today I feel more American than I ever have in my life...

Not long after I first heard what happened the end of the book/movie 1984 came to mind...

Winston: "I love Big Brother!"

[Kasilis]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

back on topic.

I have never been a very patriotic person, nor do I consider myself to be one now. Thinking back to that day I am pretty disappointed with the way I reacted when I first heard the news and over the course of 10 years I have strongly been against the war.

Turning on the news last night when I arrived at work and listening to President Obama's speech I felt good, not because we had just killed a man who had wronged us but that everyone who had lost someone or something in the attack may feel some relief after 10 years.

Today I feel more American than I ever have in my life, I am still not a very patriotic person nor do I support the war. I feel a certain sense of connection with every person I meet, that we share a common emotion a sense of righteous accomplishment.

The last few years in this country have been difficult for many people. The economy going down with the price of everything going up a lot of people have been down in a slump, and though it doesn't seem great to rally around the death of a man but finally there is something to bring us together and make us remember what it means to be an American.

That's what I'm happy about,

After school special off, rant on

and this is exactly the problem about it. You know how community ("gemeinschaft" sozio.) is being generated? By excluding others.
Now because of the horrible economic situation people in the US started to search for the enemies inside their own society. The american unity was shattered. Of course there were always minorities blamed for a lot of things in the past, but I've the feeling that it is the first time in the history of the United States that leading class is not only severly critized, but also questioned, and with them the system itself. In this time where the economy lays on the ground. When workers in Winconsins go on the streets to fight for their rights. When being anticapitalistic in any way isn't a curse word anymore. The death of defenitly true terrorists unites the American Nation again and distracts the public from the injustice problems inside their own society. You need an enemy to fight against to keep the people in line. I don't say that the goverment invented everything. I'am not one of those hoax idiots. But they are smart enough to use those things to make their politics.
This will ruin your country if you don't wake up early enough. There will not be any economy you'll benefit from if you keep cutting education to a minimum and running this ultra neoliberal line. 99% of the population won't even participate in it.
And yes he probably deserved death. But dancing in joy about it makes you look like savages in the eyes of the rest of the world. I can understand the people in NY, because I can imagen it has been traumatizing for them. But there is no excuse for this idiotic patriotism.

Forgive me if my grammar or spelling isn't correct and insulted you in any ways, but as you might have noticed I'am not from the states.

Nothing more to say but

flame on..

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans... thinking justice is done by killing another human being. That's why this stupid country we call America will always be at war.

Might I invite you to be the first in line to make justice with Al Qaeda without killing them.

You: Where's Al Qaeda?
Me: They're over there - *points*. See that man cutting that other guys head off? The one doing the cutting is a member of Al Qaeda. See the other ones around him with assault rifles? Them too.
You: Oh boy! Nows my chance to make peace without shedding blood.
Me: Good luck.

[strosz]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans... thinking justice is done by killing another human being. That's why this stupid country we call America will always be at war.

Ashimar, don't listen to the ones criticizing your view. I was gladly surprised to see someone speaking the truth as one of the first comments. Murder is pointless, and capital punishment is but an embarrassing remnant of medieval times. I'd often like to think that we have evolved, not only technically, but also as humans since those times, something which I'm not very convinced of.

[Splooie]

Originally Posted by strosz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ashimar, don't listen to the ones criticizing your view. I was gladly surprised to see someone speaking the truth as one of the first comments. Murder is pointless, and capital punishment is but an embarrassing remnant of medieval times. I'd often like to think that we have evolved, not only technically, but also as humans since those times, something which I'm not very convinced of.

How would you have brought justice to bin Laden? Harsh language? You're misrepresenting this anyway. It wasn't an execution. It was an arrest. He resisted, and his ass got shot.

[casdegere]

Originally Posted by strosz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ashimar, don't listen to the ones criticizing your view. I was gladly surprised to see someone speaking the truth as one of the first comments. Murder is pointless, and capital punishment is but an embarrassing remnant of medieval times. I'd often like to think that we have evolved, not only technically, but also as humans since those times, something which I'm not very convinced of.

It is always easier to believe that killing isn't necessary when its someone else's children dying. DO I think killing in general is a good thing? Absolutely not. DO I think that killing Bin Laden will prevent innocent deaths? Absolutely. Sure it will not stop terrorism but the world is changing. Technology is allowing more and more people to learn the truth. Both about the bad that Americans do and also the radical Muslims as well.

As long as there are Muslims that believe the Western society is preventing their own from being the chosen ones in their gods eyes there will be terrorism and innocent lives lost. As long as there is an American Government completely self concerned and spurned on by greed there will be people, countries that hate us. I believe you should expect to reap what you sow. Bin Laden, Saddam, Ghaddafi, Bush, Obama, all of these men have looked people in the face and lied to them. Manipulated, killed and tortured people either by direct or indirect means. It pains me that our society takes one step forward then two steps back. Declaring war on countries that do not declare war against us. Nato is nothing more then a mockery of greedy countries now.