Sneaky Handoffs Continue at OOT: AC

[TheSurgeon]

We should start a 24/7 OOT AC stream to start catching scumbags in the act.

[derpcake2]

if you pay me 15k i can get you a reserved spot on the list and a 3k / month return after that for 6 months

pm me

[Swish2]

It really is getting to the point where pvp would solve more and more of the bullshit that goes on here on the blue server.

People can be douchebags and there's only so much the volunteers can police the server and do things to bad people who are messing with camp lists, lawyering each other, etc etc.

[Triiz]

Why were you sitting with hide on hoping to catch them skipping you instead of just sitting there beside the person camping it and getting the camp when they were done?

[TheSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why were you sitting with hide on hoping to catch them skipping you instead of just sitting there beside the person camping it and getting the camp when they were done?

Irrelevant.

If what occurred is true, then the obvious thing to do is send a tell making one's way down the list to pass it along.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by TheSurgeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Irrelevant.

If what occurred is true, then the obvious thing to do is send a tell making one's way down the list to pass it along.

Not even sure what that means, but lists don't mean anything if the person holding the camp doesn't want to honor it. OP went out of his way to make the person camping it think they could skip him without him noticing. The result is this thread.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Swish2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really is getting to the point where pvp would solve more and more of the bullshit that goes on here on the blue server.

People can be douchebags and there's only so much the volunteers can police the server and do things to bad people who are messing with camp lists, lawyering each other, etc etc.

New CSR process:

Resolve by discussion
Didn't work?
Resolve by /duel
Didn't work?
Resolve by deleting item and death touch.
Didn't work?
Ban hammer

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Swish2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really is getting to the point where pvp would solve more and more of the bullshit that goes on here on the blue server.

People can be douchebags and there's only so much the volunteers can police the server and do things to bad people who are messing with camp lists, lawyering each other, etc etc.

There's a small problem solving benefit to pvp but it is far outweighed by the fact that:

- PvP is mostly intolerable in EQ. Yea you can fight for the AC camp but it also means Joe Casual is liable to get torn a new asshole by a deleveled ToV geared rogue while trying to camp pieces of their epic.
- On an basic level the PvP gameplay and meta in EQ is horrible and un-fun.

I played on Rallos Zek on live and while it had its fun moments that is not an experience I ever have the will to relive. Judging by the population of red I'm far from alone in that sentiment. And Red99 doesn't even have item loot; my most fun PvP experiences were jacking people's beloved items.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a small problem solving benefit to pvp but it is far outweighed by the fact that:

- PvP is mostly intolerable in EQ. Yea you can fight for the AC camp but it also means Joe Casual is liable to get torn a new asshole by a deleveled ToV geared rogue while trying to camp pieces of their epic.
- On an basic level the PvP gameplay and meta in EQ is horrible and un-fun.

I played on Rallos Zek on live and while it had its fun moments that is not an experience I ever have the will to relive. Judging by the population of red I'm far from alone in that sentiment. And Red99 doesn't even have item loot; my most fun PvP experiences were jacking people's beloved items.

EQ's mechanics need to be changed significantly, but PvP is still immensely better than the alternative of standing around doing nothing and having totally static content. With PvP the world at least feels alive again.

Twinking issues could and should be fixed, as there was nobody with this level of gear during the classic timeline, and those few people with top raid gear were certainly not deleveling their characters.

[Kaezyr D`Shiv]

Originally Posted by Swish2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really is getting to the point where pvp would solve more and more of the bullshit that goes on here on the blue server...

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...it also means Joe Casual is liable to get torn a new asshole by a deleveled ToV geared rogue while trying to camp pieces of their epic.
- On an basic level the PvP gameplay and meta in EQ is horrible and un-fun..

Swish, instead of always bringing up how the red style of play can solve blue's problems, can I hear some of your ideas of how, just like similar non-classic functions exist on blue as deemed necessary by the staff, what can be done on red through staff involvement to make it a more enjoyable, fair-minded atmosphere that may some day bring "life" back to the red population? Perhaps even do something, as mentioned by Lune here, to "even" out items such as TOV level gear on a CB bound rogue of say level 12 or so?