Did Everyone have FUN??

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Roll Tide <3

wholesome raid environment, not like lormain would understand

[loramin]

If y'all think you're being clever by saying "hey, under the current system that strongly discourages smaller guilds from participating, a smaller guild/alliance didn't participate, and therefore it's proof that any system which encourages smaller guilds/alliances to participate is inherently flawed", then you're not as clever as you think.

[Rang]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, I know this is RnF, but maybe, just briefly, could we try talking about what raid scene we genuinely believe would be best for the server? Could people talk honestly about why competition matters, what it even means to them, whether they really care about people playing EverQuest better, or whether they just want a private club that others can't join? Could we talk about stuff like that ...

... instead of just trying to make the most clever personal attack? I know it's a longshot, but you'll never know if you don't ask.

I think people may be surprised that you go on and on..... and on about these topics. Haven’t you realized that yes, this is about a private club others cannot join and always has been about that. The players that want “competition” gain satisfaction from denying the “enemy” (other guilds) pixels, no matter how insignificant the pixels may be. How have you not come to that realization already? It doesn’t matter what system (outside of a rotation) is in place. The motivation is the same.

[loramin]

But again, instead of the personal attacks, why not answer a question this: all else being equal would it be better if more people got to experience classic EverQuest raiding?

[7thGate]

Nonspecific to Loramin, but Aegis did raid ToV last night. We came there after the targets we knew how to try and do, and made an attempt at Telk, which didn't work but was a good learning experience. After which it was late enough that we went to bed.

It was rather fun, since there were still some dragons up to try and go after by that point, which I am pretty sure would not have been the case before these changes. Getting to step a toe into ToV was a good time even if not successful.

There were over 400(!) people in ToV by the time we showed up in force, which is a lot of people getting to try and kill dragons.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Rang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people may be surprised that you go on and on..... and on about these topics. Haven’t you realized that yes, this is about a private club others cannot join and always has been about that. The players that want “competition” gain satisfaction from denying the “enemy” (other guilds) pixels, no matter how insignificant the pixels may be. How have you not come to that realization already? It doesn’t matter what system (outside of a rotation) is in place. The motivation is the same.

If you think that RnF is only read by the people who yell the loudest in it, or even for that matter server chat (as these discussions often bleed over), then you're missing most of the audience. Tons of players (and, one can only hope, some staff) read these forums too.

And all those (unspeaking) people can make up their own minds, based on the arguments and personal attacks made here, what opinion they want to hold. I certainly won't stop making them just because a few folks try to shout me down.

[branamil]

Loramin: posts 28,000 times regarding raid rules
Loramin: doesn't raid
Everyone else: your opinion isn't that relevant because you don't raid
Loramin: HELP!! I'm being personally attacked, O, how long must I suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune?

[Gozuk]

Wow, really?

[Maliant]

The fun has just begun.

[aaezil]

Way to misquote shakespeare ahahaa