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i'm wondering has anyone parsed TOV level weapons 1 hander vs. 2 hander on monk since the most recent patch. I think we will know, just want to know if anyone knows already.
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Last edited by mefdinkins; 09-09-2019 at 08:28 PM..
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A 35 delay 2hander now applies a damage bonus of 31 every 3.5 seconds (8.86 dmg per second in damage bonus) If you had a 17 delay 1hander you're applying 11 dmg bonus per 1.7 seconds (6.47 dmg per second in damage bonus) Haste in this instance is irrelevant as it works for both near equally whether at 0% haste or 100% haste. 2handers now actually put out more total damage bonus than the very fastest 1hander's out there. You would need a mainhand base delay of 12 to beat out a 35 delay 2hander. A mainhand base delay of 13 still loses to 35 delay for the strict purposes of damage bonus application. Point is? On high ac mobs 2handers will generate more damage bonus than any 1handers in existence. This completely up-ends the oldschool approach of fast primary on high ac mobs like AoW and the like. A rocking endgame BiS duel wield setup will still be rockin dps, but more readily attainable raid 2handers (excluding Abashi which is better) will now be extremely competitive if not possibly better than gharns/other. My Tstaff at 29/30 is now completely destroying my epic/SoM combo on both trash xp mobs and high ac raid mobs. It used to be that epic/SoM was roughly equivalent to slightly better on trash xp mobs and significantly better on high ac mobs. TStaff applies 29 dmg every 3 seconds (9.66 dmg per second). Epic fist applies 11dmg per 1.6 seconds (6.875 dmg per second). Other and much more cheap IFS applies 34 dmg per 4 seconds (8.5dmg per second). The tables have turned. It’s doubtful I’ll ever use epic fist for dps moving forward unless I need to push. Mainhand 1hander dmg bonus is flatly inferior to 2hander. Weapon ratio is ultimately of supreme importance but given comparable balanced ratios 2handers have that edge. All of this ignores the fact that triple attack shifts the scales even further in favor of 2handers for reasons that should be obvious to us all.
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Last edited by Troxx; 09-10-2019 at 12:35 AM..
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Interestingly both shovel of harvest at 50/43 and Trorsmang at 40/35 are only about 9% better than TStaff 29/30 because 30 is right about the sweet spot for returns on damage bonus. Trorsmang and Shovel should parse virtually identically thanks to the better delay dmg bonus on Trorsmang. Vs TStaff that 9% is before you factor in the unreasonable 120 DD proc. Functionally TStaff proc is 4dps over time at max dex. TStaff thus floats only 3-5% lower than every raid 2hander except abashi. On really high ac mobs TStaff may perform even closer for the same reason fast one handers used to be better.
Abashi is also at that sweet spot for delay and is 25% better before you factor in the proc from TStaff. I’m dying to see a real life parse comparison of 15/18 and 16/19 vs 40/30
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Fwiw my usual low aggro setup on my warrior raiding is 9/18 and 12/21. For high ac content it was reliably better than my garbage 30/35 2hander. Yesterday on some high ac velious raid targets the 2hander was out-performing the dual wield setup by a noticeable amount.
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Parses please
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Edit to add a follow up question: is this change to the damage tables really classic, or was it an executive decision to try and keep monks (read: Kelz) from being too OP. My hazy recollection is that monks did stupid dps at the end of Vel/start of Luclin, and I played a pretty well geared rogue back then. Maybe I'm just off though. Given the rigid adherence to "Classic" on the interface front, to considerable community dismay, I would hope that the damage changes were similarly accurate. | |||
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Last edited by Triode; 09-10-2019 at 11:27 AM..
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