No More Hell Levels?

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Worry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

It's about the journey, not the destination. The community has made it so max level isn't all that fun anyway.

I'm not too sure how leveling has become something that is "in the way" of the "real game", which these types of players consider raiding. The leveling experience was always supposed to be the heart and soul of the game. I have no idea where that went....

In modern MMOs (I refuse to add the "RPG" to that as they have nothing to do with it anymore) leveling is seen as something to just get thru to get to raiding. Why not just make raiding games then?

Oh, that's right....they have.

Everyone relax, enjoy the length of time you get to level up and see what happens.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Madamegato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think it would be untrue to the spirit of Original Everquest if the hell levels were to be ironed out?

I'm on the fence.

Yes, no thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fadetree]

assuming that the original EQ devs did it on purpose, then yes. Since it's kind of a mathematical quirk I tend to think that it was not intended and so would not violate the 'spirit' (The Vision, tm) of original EQ.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

assuming that the original EQ devs did it on purpose, then yes. Since it's kind of a mathematical quirk I tend to think that it was not intended and so would not violate the 'spirit' (The Vision, tm) of original EQ.

Ridiculous glitches and unintended consequences due to developer blind spots is part of the quirky charm to Everquest.

As much as this project is an homage to a thing we love, it also serves as a museum of mistakes for future games to avoid.

To paint over the cracks does the project a disservice.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ridiculous glitches and unintended consequences due to developer blind spots is part of the quirky charm to Everquest.

As much as this project is an homage to a thing we love, it also serves as a museum of mistakes for future games to avoid.

To paint over the cracks does the project a disservice.

Well said!

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as this project is an homage to a thing we love, it also serves as a museum of mistakes for future games to avoid.

Is that why I am playing a 20 year old MMORPG instead of 2019 Skyrimcraft. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ridiculous glitches and unintended consequences due to developer blind spots is part of the quirky charm to Everquest.

As much as this project is an homage to a thing we love, it also serves as a museum of mistakes for future games to avoid.

To paint over the cracks does the project a disservice.

the question asked was if it would be against the original 'spirit' of everquest, not whether you would still like it or not. I was saying that if it were intentional (see above), then obviously yes. If it were NOT intentional, then it would not be against what the original devs thought they were creating. Had nothing to do with whether you or I would like it, or whether P99 should get rid of hell levels or paint over other cracks.

[Canelek]

They were leveled out around PoP->LDON if I recall correctly. At least that is what seems approximately the case since PoP's levels 60-65 scaled as "hell levels" as well.

(I think)

I like that there are hell levels. Makes sticking it out much more rewarding.

[Palemoon]

It was intentional on the original devs part. It was a way to allow friends to catch up with each other and keep them at the same or similar levels longer.

[elwing]

Hell level were not really removed, they just distributed the progression evenly, the total exp for 60 was similar before and after the "removal" of the hell level I think