People Boxing Think They Are So Clever

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by White_knight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So much boxing happens.

I would estimate 75%+ of EC tunnel rats are boxing.
So you're talking about 100-150 people right there.

Not to mention almost every single one of these people/listed who are just afk AF not even helping

[Frug]

Originally Posted by White_knight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So much boxing happens.

I would estimate 75%+ of EC tunnel rats are boxing.
So you're talking about 100-150 people right there.

I think you're delusional.

[fadetree]

I estimate that 86% of people making completely unfounded guesses to support some kind of conspiracy theory are delusional and kind of dumb. However, 14% are not correct. Also probably space aliens, that's a thing.

[AgentEpilot]

How do we know its not space aliens doing the boxing, we need a history channel documentary on this.

[vossiewulf]

Originally Posted by AgentEpilot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do we know its not space aliens doing the boxing, we need a history channel documentary on this.

You meant Hystry Channel. Ahh the good old days when it was the Hitler Channel and there was an entire channel dedicated to Discovery Wings.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by vossiewulf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You meant Hystry Channel. Ahh the good old days when it was the Hitler Channel and there was an entire channel dedicated to Discovery Wings.

Funny, I hadn't heard anyone else (but me) refer to it as [All] Hitler Channel. At least it was interesting then.

[Jimjam]

"Everyone is doing it" is always a screaming red flag. If someone using this phrase isn't able to name names it means with certainty that person is doing it themself.

[fadetree]

'Boxing' has nothing to do with MQ2. Limited boxing (meaning you can only have a small number of accounts online at any one time) is in my opinion a nice option to have. TAKP, for instance, allows up to 3 accounts online at a time. That's a good number because although you can certainly grind and do some of the smaller end game encounters you cannot really just run amok and take down raid targets. TAKP also has a pretty large exp bonus for others in group, so that it still encourages grouping whenever possible. TAKP does not allow MQ2 or any kind of macroing or cheating, and they are aggressive about banning for it. This means you have to PLAY your characters. Playing 3 toons at once with no macros is not easy, try it sometime...when things go sideways it can be very exciting.
I respect P99's stance on boxing, but I like boxing the way TAKP does it. I hate being lfg and I like the option to be able to grind while waiting. The box limit means nobody will be monopolizing any hard targets. The strict ban on macro-ing means you have to actually play the boxes manually.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

'Boxing' has nothing to do with MQ2. Limited boxing (meaning you can only have a small number of accounts online at any one time) is in my opinion a nice option to have. TAKP, for instance, allows up to 3 accounts online at a time. That's a good number because although you can certainly grind and do some of the smaller end game encounters you cannot really just run amok and take down raid targets. TAKP also has a pretty large exp bonus for others in group, so that it still encourages grouping whenever possible. TAKP does not allow MQ2 or any kind of macroing or cheating, and they are aggressive about banning for it. This means you have to PLAY your characters. Playing 3 toons at once with no macros is not easy, try it sometime...when things go sideways it can be very exciting.
I respect P99's stance on boxing, but I like boxing the way TAKP does it. I hate being lfg and I like the option to be able to grind while waiting. The box limit means nobody will be monopolizing any hard targets. The strict ban on macro-ing means you have to actually play the boxes manually.

I REALLY dislike boxing on EQ because of the limited size of the world and the generally harsh consequences for failure when trying to solo stuff like freeti, lord, etc., that are mitigated/eliminated by boxing. Say what you will about it sometimes being tricky to box, most wouldn't be trying to triple box the same content 3 separate players could handle but rather would be farming content with boxing that normally would be risky or class-limited to handle solo.

That said, when city of heroes "homecoming" emu servers fired up earlier this year, they put in a "you can run a second account, but no more than that, as long as the server population is below XXX." I forgot the exact number, but if P99 had a "you can run a second account, but no more than that, as long as the server population is below 400 (or something like that, maybe 500. Maybe 600 with kunark)," I think I would actually be ok with it. Barely. And still maybe not.

I feel like this wouldn't change things much since it doesn't do TOO much to help people trying to PL alts or farm plat/camps, as long as the number is set properly. But it throws a bone to the players who are online at 3-10 am eastern when groups can be hard to find and could help even out the class distribution a little by allowing people playing off hours to play a melee with a sham/cle or something boxed.


Or even a "you can box but one of the accounts has to be in east commonlands" policy would be tolerable, imo. Barely.

[Nordok]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I REALLY dislike boxing on EQ because of the limited size of the world and the generally harsh consequences for failure when trying to solo stuff like freeti, lord, etc., that are mitigated/eliminated by boxing. Say what you will about it sometimes being tricky to box, most wouldn't be trying to triple box the same content 3 separate players could handle but rather would be farming content with boxing that normally would be risky or class-limited to handle solo.

That said, when city of heroes "homecoming" emu servers fired up earlier this year, they put in a "you can run a second account, but no more than that, as long as the server population is below XXX." I forgot the exact number, but if P99 had a "you can run a second account, but no more than that, as long as the server population is below 400 (or something like that, maybe 500. Maybe 600 with kunark)," I think I would actually be ok with it. Barely. And still maybe not.

I feel like this wouldn't change things much since it doesn't do TOO much to help people trying to PL alts or farm plat/camps, as long as the number is set properly. But it throws a bone to the players who are online at 3-10 am eastern when groups can be hard to find and could help even out the class distribution a little by allowing people playing off hours to play a melee with a sham/cle or something boxed.


Or even a "you can box but one of the accounts has to be in east commonlands" policy would be tolerable, imo. Barely.

The only reason I hate that boxing is allowed is because then it forces me to do it and I just find it tedious, even if useful. And its the only reason i'm not playing on the zek server cause you have to box to be competitive.