AG, Riot, Freedom raid suspended indefinitely

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by SantagarBrax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with this statement is that the GM's have not been "dealing with this crap".

It's no secret that since the arrival and launch of Green, the GM's on Blue have been virtually non-existent. Had there been more involvement on Blue, it's entirely plausible that we would not be at this junction.

Realistically, these problems with the raid scene on Blue have only emerged within the last few months since the formation of Freedom. Reading over the UN conversations, one can objectively notice that one guild in particular wants their cake and eat it too.

All of this has been ranted about in RNF over the past few months and we all know GM's do monitor RNF. Why haven't they done anything to address any of the concerns and nip it in the bud with a firm ruling?

These problematic interactions between Riot and Freedom are of no surprise, it's not like it was unforeseen. This was literally the reason Freedom formed, due to conflict within Riot from certain members and the leadership of Riot.

I'm not putting 100% of the fault at the feet of the GM's, most assuredly they are not the root of the problem, just recognizing that there has been foreseeable problems coming down the road and the lack attention to it has only exacerbated the situation.

Throwing down an indefinite hammer ban seems to be an "easy way out" decision from a lack of participation more than a reasonable contribution towards any meaningful solution.

Now, 99% of the raiding guild members, whom have no control over leaderships' attitudes and relationships toward each other, are charged with the task of ensuring leadership from both guilds "figure it out" and compromise.

Has that worked at all in any significant way thus far? There has to be a better way.

/sigh


Small footnote: The raid scene was more toxic when velious launched and for a year and a half afterwards than it is right now, and blanket indefinite ban's weren't handed out then.

If the GMs wanted to fix the raid scene they'd do it, its not hard. They enjoy the drama or toxicity or whatever they want to call it. Indefinite ban/work it out in discord just means they can read more drama in the UN discord chat. You can write a wall of text to try and justify it but its pretty easy to see through it.

[Bellringer]

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[arsenalpow]

“Right to play” is pretty loaded. Everyone has the right to log into the server but the end game is dictated by the staff and the groups willing to be the most extreme to capture pixels. If you don’t like it then vote with your feet. Plenty of guilds have already learned this lesson.

[Mickets]

The sad truth many of you are resistant to is that Everquest was not designed to be the hyper competitive gaming environment ya'll are trying to make it be. Easy solution is rotate all mobs. Can make an exception like Kael if you really need a janky ass mariokart experience to feel superior to other people.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by Mickets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The sad truth many of you are resistant to is that Everquest was not designed to be the hyper competitive gaming environment ya'll are trying to make it be. Easy solution is rotate all mobs. Can make an exception like Kael if you really need a janky ass mariokart experience to feel superior to other people.

Ding ding motherfucker! Ahahahahahaa!

Shit had me laughin brother. Kudos.

[Mickets]

Even with rotated mobs you can get super competitive about this guys. Top dps, lowest kill #s, fastest NTOV clear, etc. Consider it.

[Fammaden]

There's plenty of compromises.

Roation but you have to be gathering within five minutes and engaged in fifteen or the mob goes open. Any wipes open the mob completely. Quakes are fully competitive and FFA. You could rotate but leave one week a month where certain mobs are FFA.

This is one of the most obsessively nerdy gatherings of human beings in online gaming history, there is zero reason that a robust and functional monthly raid calendar spreadsheet can't be developed, agreed on, submitted to the GM's, and approved prior to the next cycle.

[kaizersoze]

Looks like a Kittens warrior is getting themselves a shiny used Scepter of Destruction, if that contest still stands! Sweep those Golems, kitties! Get that warder loot!

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like a Kittens warrior is getting themselves a shiny used Scepter of Destruction, if that contest still stands! Sweep those Golems, kitties! Get that warder loot!

The contest was literally named "let's make ST competitive" not sure why he would still honor the offer if only one guild is allowed in the zone.

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The contest was literally named "let's make ST competitive" not sure why he would still honor the offer if only one guild is allowed in the zone.

It also says in the rules that it doesnt matter if X guild is suspended for any reason. Sounds like it should be honored to me.