2020 Post Election MEGAthread

[Jibartik]

Im watching The Barrier on Netflix right now and I'm like, ok this is what the shut-in's are going to be like now oops I was wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Morton Jr]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im watching The Barrier on Netflix right now and I'm like, ok this is what the shut-in's are going to be like now oops I was wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theres a cool special about scientology , must watch

[douglas1999]

Here's how I predict it will go:

I will work hard for the american people. The working class. The peoplewhodoit, you know? Cmon. A new directionfor, you, the people man. Healthcare, your doctor, thanksgiving turkey table.

*kamala cackles weirdly when asked any kind of hard question*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iMYlJqsDcg

[douglas1999]

Criticizing or praising trump's covid response is a non-starter. He, personally, didn't do anything. He was surrounded by people who advise him. The general consensus swung back and forth. Democrats initially: Don't ban travel from china, or you're a racist. Democrats later: Why didn't you act sooner?? Fauci initially: Don't wear masks. Fauci later: Definitely wear masks or your lungs will bleed. Then there's a gigantic phish-show style party for biden winning and nobody cares. But rednecks protesting lockdowns in their cars wearing masks is a "super-spreader event". This is why people question the narrative, because it's full of internal contradictions.

Edit: Sorry for double post. God damnit.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Criticizing or praising trump's covid response is a non-starter. He, personally, didn't do anything. He was surrounded by people who advise him. The general consensus swung back and forth. Democrats initially: Don't ban travel from china, or you're a racist. Democrats later: Why didn't you act sooner?? Fauci initially: Don't wear masks. Fauci later: Definitely wear masks or your lungs will bleed. Then there's a gigantic phish-show style party for biden winning and nobody cares. But rednecks protesting lockdowns in their cars wearing masks is a "super-spreader event". This is why people question the narrative, because it's full of internal contradictions.

Edit: Sorry for double post. God damnit.

Again, covered already.

He ordered the reorganization of the GHSBU prior to COVID. During COVID, he was advised by epidemiologists along the way. He chose to not heed their warnings because he was more concerned about re-election and the stock market. Instead, he shopped until he found someone willing to deliver the advice he wanted to hear.

COVID was a slam-dunk opportunity for Trump to get re-elected. Back in march he could have come before the people and galvanized us like FDR or like Reagan would have. He could have told us it was going to be hard and asked us to step up together and sacrifice. Think Rudy on 9/11. Act like an adult with some humanity and shoot straight with your constituents. The bar is not that high.

But no, he didn't like the message coming from his experts so he did what he's pathologically compelled to do -- go the other direction out of spite and continue to double down over and over once it's clear he made the wrong choice.

A proper response doesn't assure a positive outcome, but that doesn't excuse an improper response.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, covered already.

He ordered the reorganization of the GHSBU prior to COVID. During COVID, he was advised by epidemiologists along the way. He chose to not heed their warnings because he was more concerned about re-election and the stock market. Instead, he shopped until he found someone willing to deliver the advice he wanted to hear.

COVID was a slam-dunk opportunity for Trump to get re-elected. Back in march he could have come before the people and galvanized us like FDR or like Reagan would have. He could have told us it was going to be hard and asked us to step up together and sacrifice. Think Rudy on 9/11. Act like an adult with some humanity and shoot straight with your constituents. The bar is not that high.

But no, he didn't like the message coming from his experts so he did what he's pathologically compelled to do -- go the other direction out of spite and continue to double down over and over once it's clear he made the wrong choice.

A proper response doesn't assure a positive outcome, but that doesn't excuse an improper response.

Define improper response, or proper response. "Do everything correctly" isn't an argument. Based on what we have learned, covid is still highly non-fatal. a 95% survival rate for the most vulnerable group (the elderly) does not warrant the response that has been deployed, and especially not the consequences of the measures that have been enacted. Nobody has been able to explain, still, why we shouldn't just socially distance and wear masks at all times, for everything, based on this logic. The common cold is more fatal, influenza is more fatal, ebola is more fatal, chicken pox and shingles are more fatal.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Define improper response, or proper response. "Do everything correctly" isn't an argument. Based on what we have learned, covid is still highly non-fatal. a 95% survival rate for the most vulnerable group (the elderly) does not warrant the response that has been deployed, and especially not the consequences of the measures that have been enacted. Nobody has been able to explain, still, why we shouldn't just socially distance and wear masks at all times, for everything, based on this logic. The common cold is more fatal, influenza is more fatal, ebola is more fatal, chicken pox and shingles are more fatal.

Listen to epidemiologists and other infectious disease specialists.

They don't recommend wearing masks for the cold or influenza (most). Just because they haven't been able to explain it to your liking doesn't mean it hasn't been explained. It's a combination of mortality, R0, and other factors. If we didn't have vaccines that were at least partially effective for some flus, we might be asked to wear masks more.

This trend in our society to give credence to our layman's logic and information we read on facebook over that of the experts is an alarming trend that is, almost, uniquely American in origin.

I'll recommend the following read again to anyone who doesn't think they know everything: https://www.amazon.com/Death-Experti...4886392&sr=8-1

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because they haven't been able to explain it to your liking doesn't mean it hasn't been explained. It's a combination of mortality, R0, and other factors. If we didn't have vaccines that were at least partially effective for some flus, we might be asked to wear masks more.

This trend in our society to give credence to our layman's logic and information we read on facebook over that of the experts is an alarming trend that is, almost, uniquely American in origin.

The infinite 'why' game is really irritating if you aren't the child's parent.

[Baler]

Will biden "abuse his power" and start signing executive orders?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

Will they use the 25th amendment to replace biden?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty...s_Constitution

[hobart]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will biden "abuse his power" and start signing executive orders?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

Will they use the 25th amendment to replace biden?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty...s_Constitution

Almost certainly, yes. Thank Dick Cheney. Dubya did it. Obama did it. I think every president will until one of the other two branches steps in and checks this power.

No. A speech impediment and being old is not grounds. Could it get there? Sure. I think Trump was too old to be elected president. Biden obviously older, so yeah. Maybe?