KWSM moving the bar

[sydbarrett25]

https://youtu.be/RY7je7q0mB0

[Littul Jonn]

This is confusing, why can’t people practice on the beta server?

[k9quaint]

Originally Posted by Littul Jonn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is confusing, why can’t people practice on the beta server?

They can. They did. Just make a guild and get on the raceline for 16 hours like everyone else! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nirgon]

You have to prove you can get multiple Vindicators and face large amounts of hostility to join the rotated non toxic content. We are working on it.

[Nirgon]

So we allow people to openly raid targets once a month without a bunch of red tape, lies and moving goal posts.... and that's "more toxic". I am sorry, but you are wrong here. You just don't like your false narrative being torn down and that is understandable. It can be frustrating.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we allow people to openly raid targets once a month without a bunch of red tape, lies and moving goal posts.... and that's "more toxic". I am sorry, but you are wrong here. You just don't like your false narrative being torn down and that is understandable. It can be frustrating.

Are there regular open raids for Trakanon? In VP? Or are open raids restricted to the Nagafen's and Faydedar's of the world?

[boukk]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we allow people to openly raid targets once a month without a bunch of red tape, lies and moving goal posts.... and that's "more toxic". I am sorry, but you are wrong here. You just don't like your false narrative being torn down and that is understandable. It can be frustrating.

You allow?

Perfect exemple of ST thinking they own the server.

And yes crushing a few target with random 300 people once a month isn't rotating weekly targets.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by boukk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You allow?

Perfect exemple of ST thinking they own the server.

And yes crushing a few target with random 300 people once a month isn't rotating weekly targets.

Okay replace allow with.... don't go hard for those targets and share them during that time?

Your system is a fraud, your server is incredibly toxic.

[k9quaint]

Green server is a certified https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf...safety_level_4 lab for the study of virulent pathogens. Please follow all safety protocols.

[Twochain]

Gonna have to side with Seal Team on this one, assuming they snag a couple more Vindis before the next draft. Here's why.

-While their roster may comprise of some alts from F/AG + Riot + Kittens etc... so does Kittens. I know many raiders who have alts in Kittens, and have had them in the guild for years.

-It's hard to fault a guild for not being "active" on blue, when, Phatez didn't start pushing to take down content on blue until, what, a week ago?

-When was the last time a non F/AG+Riot guild killed a CONTESTED Vindi? Not, oh vulak is up and everyone is in tov Vindi. A 7pm, pull on spawn contested kill? I can't think of a recent one.

-Speaking of contesting, when was the last time a non F/AG+RIOT guild killed a CONTESTED VULAK? Sadly, i'd put a $1000 that Seal Team could compete for a contested Vulak before ANY of the other guilds could. With maybe the exception of Kittens teaming up with Riot. If Phatez wanted to compete for Vulak, he could probably do so within a month or two. So it wouldn't be fair to say Seal Team is getting "free" mobs..... when aegis getting first pick in the snake draft and selecting Vulak is a possibility.

- <Seal Team> ... while it may be a new entity, is comprised mostly of semi-retired blue players. I saw a lot of ex AM/AW names tagged in Seal Team that I haven't seen forever. If 30-40 geared players looking to take down one or two raid mobs a week isn't a raiding guild... IDK what is.

- My vision for the server post green is that green's characters dumps into blue after it's timeline is over, and the top dog of velious competes with the top guilds of blue. That would be a blast for a couple months. (Although, 3 entities competing in TOV atm is completely broken due to rooted dragons. Guild A gets FTE, Guild B trains, guild C takes the mob for free - Wasn't nearly as much as an issue pre root) .... might as well get used to it now. As I see a day <Seal Team> competes on blue.

-Phatez, along with <Seal Team's> Officer core (from what I understand) haven't played on blue in a long time. This isn't a case of an active blue raid leader looking to cash in on some free loot for their alts. Which was frowned upon in the class system. This is a new situation, where a certain number of players who play on Green wants to do some Blue content. You should be allowed to compete on two servers if you want.