Enchanter OP impact poll

[DMN]

You've lied about memory blur rates being too high on mez and you've lied about enchanter animation HPs, which have the correct HPs that were verified in show EQ logs.

Pretty much everything that could be objectively tested/looked at in your various assortment of cherry picked fairy tales you've lied about.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've lied about memory blur rates being too high on mez and you've lied about enchanter animation HPs, which have the correct HPs that were verified in show EQ logs.

Pretty much everything that could be objectively tested/looked at in your various assortment of cherry picked fairy tales you've lied about.

Ok, let's talk about mem blur rates. I noticed it seemed high and reported it and I believe Daldaen said he noticed the same and provided evidence and testing showing it was too high. We got a ton of evidence in that thread about mem blur from mez but nothing exact was proven.

Did I ever say this was confirmed somehow? No, I didn't. What did come out in that thread though was the proven mem blur doesn't reapply on each cast unless it wears off. That issue I did state as proven.

So you're actually saying that if I make a claim something seems off and discuss it on the bug forum I'm lying and making stuff up. Ok, whatever.

Enchanter animation HP as far as I know was never confirmed to be correct. The HP amounts from the capture didn't match the Wiki. I don't think anyone has actually tested in game to see if the wiki is right or wrong?

That bug report thread I believe ended with confirming all pet HP is too high, that level range is wider for all summoned pets, and that Enchanter pet is much lower than other pets (my original claim). As far as I know no one has tested HP values in game on P99 to compare to the capture. However, I do know that Enchanter animations weren't soloing yellow con mobs ever and it was always a paper thin DPS addition as all classic statements on those pets confirm. Yet on P99 the Enchanter animation is practically just an uncommanded mage/nec pet.

Did you test it in game? Did I miss something? That bug report and capture seems to confirm things are broken yet you think it confirms everything is fine. I could be confused or missing something, let me know.

[knucklehairs]

Op why does this hurt you so much I don't play enchanter for a few reasons one of them is because I like to go afk but I think it would suck if you got them nerfed
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[loramin]

When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest? NO ONE remembers Enchanters being like this in classic EverQuest!

[DMN]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest?

Never, and considering I was the second level 50 enchanter on fennin ro, I actually know WTF I'm talking about, both then and now.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"No one" remembers bards killing dozens of mobs either

Swarm kiting was definitely a thing on live. Maybe not with as many mobs as people do here, but it was certainly a thing.

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or shaman soloing all sorts of the shit they can on p99.

Again, not true. I played a Shaman back then, and our forum (The Shaman's Crucible) had tons of talk about soloing tough high level mobs (eg. this was slightly after the classic period, but even 20+ years later I can still vividly remember the first time someone posted about soloing Lodi on that forum).

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never, and considering I was the second level 50 enchanter on fennin ro

And you solo charmed your way to being the second 50? You didn't instead ... you know ... group, like every other Enchanter did (at least primarily) back then?

[DMN]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swarm kiting was definitely a thing on live. Maybe not with as many mobs as people do here, but it was certainly a thing.



Again, not true. I played a Shaman back then, and our forum (The Shaman's Crucible) had tons of talk about soloing tough high level mobs (eg. this was slightly after the classic period, but even 20+ years later I can still vividly remember the first time someone posted about soloing Lodi on that forum).

I sometimes wonder if you are just dumb or intentionally obtuse, Loramin. The quotes around "no one" was not some kind of typo.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you solo charmed your way to being the second 50? You didn't instead ... you know ... group, like every other Enchanter did (at least primarily) back then?

No. I did very little soloing to 50 in vanilla on my enc, but I did a good bit post kunark and a lot of douing as well. I did plenty of soloing on my necro in the same time frame -- who also had charm. So, ya, I got plenty of experience with it back then.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest? NO ONE remembers Enchanters being like this in classic EverQuest!

because Ive played this game long enough to know that what people remember =/= reality.

[Snortles Chortles]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest? NO ONE remembers Enchanters being like this in classic EverQuest!

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest? NO ONE remembers Enchanters being like this in classic EverQuest!

Enchanter appeals to people who are into accruing power through deceit, distortion and manipulation.