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[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try to understand this concept as I have talked with many homeless after sharing my meals with them.
Have you ever considered that most people in that scenario would not want to freeze to death with no community support so the majority of the united states homeless population travels to the more temperate California?

Men are blasting themselves off into space with rockets paying no patriotic tax contribution at all ZERO that could home every homeless person in America if we just had the salt to tax them again (60%+ prior to reagan over 10 mill) and instead we are blaming a helpless homeless population struggling to survive and eat?

If you get sick and become homeless, would you want to be treated the way your treating others?


(How many hundreds of thousands will your plan cover? Chances are it still wont be enough. We have US doctors suggesting gofundme for cancer treatments on people who have good insurance. 50% of People get a type of cancer in their lifetime on average)
(Trash concept my preference would be tiny homes homes with a trash bin near every one of them they work, cut down on trash and create security + residence to apply for jobs) https://youthspiritartworks.org/prog...house-village/

Be a part of the solution not the problem. " 100 Homes for 100 Homeless Youth "

Tldr; we could give heroin addicts homes and that would "fix" them

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try to understand this concept as I have talked with many homeless after sharing my meals with them.
Have you ever considered that most people in that scenario would not want to freeze to death with no community support so the majority of the united states homeless population travels to the more temperate California?

Men are blasting themselves off into space with rockets paying no patriotic tax contribution at all ZERO that could home every homeless person in America if we just had the salt to tax them again (60%+ prior to reagan over 10 mill) and instead we are blaming a helpless homeless population struggling to survive and eat?

If you get sick and become homeless, would you want to be treated the way your treating others?


(How many hundreds of thousands will your plan cover? Chances are it still wont be enough. We have US doctors suggesting gofundme for cancer treatments on people who have good insurance. 50% of People get a type of cancer in their lifetime on average)
(Trash concept my preference would be tiny homes homes with a trash bin near every one of them they work, cut down on trash and create security + residence to apply for jobs) https://youthspiritartworks.org/prog...house-village/

Be a part of the solution not the problem. " 100 Homes for 100 Homeless Youth "

Simply throwing homes at homeless people is no solution at all

There are two kinds of homeless people: ones that are temporarily homeless and ones that are chronically homeless. The temporarily homeless are typically people who were high-functioning previously, and fell on some hard times. There are enough supports in place for these people to get off the streets again. These are the types of people who can schedule an appointment for a screening and qualify for a transitional shelter: which is a shelter you can stay at for an extended period of time such as many months. They typically will allow a grace period of a few weeks were the person can stay for free, then they attempt to find them some work such as working in a call center or a labor job that they can then use to pay a very low monthly rent, like $100-200

There is far more of the other type of homeless, the chronically homeless. These people were never high functioning, either due to mental illness or serious substance abuse or both. These people typically can not qualify for a transitional shelter, and even emergency shelters don't want to take them. Why? Because either their mental state causes them to be a danger to themselves or others, or else they need to be doing hard illegal drugs daily, which shelters will not tolerate. These people you cannot just throw a house at. It's been done and it always plays out the same. If you were not a high functioning individual, you don't have the mental capability of maintaining a home. So the home gets completely thrashed, until it becomes inhabitable. And all that money spent on building it is wasted. Now, something that is difficult to destroy, such as a large storage container furnished with metal furniture that can be washed, that actually could work, and is being done in places like california

But you won't ever solve the issue of chronic homelessness for a few reasons. You can't force someone into substance abuse treatment. And no insurances want to pay for seriously mentally ill people to be put into the residential treatment centers for months-years at a time. That is insanely expensive. You have the cost of paying all the staff, which is a high cost because they all need to be licensed and certified. Then you have the cost of getting the license to operate as a RTC. The cost of maintaining the building. Cost of everyone's medications. Cost of food. Etc. Insanely expensive. AND, you also have a large chunk of seriously mentally ill who don't recognize it, and therefore wouldn't willingly go to a residential treatment center. So then you have the ethical dilemma of getting a court to take away their rights, and force them into one

So because of these issues, you are only going to see more and more chronically homeless people. And it has NOTHING to do with there not being enough houses for them to live in

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply throwing homes at homeless people is no solution at all

There are two kinds of homeless people: ones that are temporarily homeless and ones that are chronically homeless. The temporarily homeless are typically people who were high-functioning previously, and fell on some hard times. There are enough supports in place for these people to get off the streets again. These are the types of people who can schedule an appointment for a screening and qualify for a transitional shelter: which is a shelter you can stay at for an extended period of time such as many months. They typically will allow a grace period of a few weeks were the person can stay for free, then they attempt to find them some work such as working in a call center or a labor job that they can then use to pay a very low monthly rent, like $100-200

There is far more of the other type of homeless, the chronically homeless. These people were never high functioning, either due to mental illness or serious substance abuse or both. These people typically can not qualify for a transitional shelter, and even emergency shelters don't want to take them. Why? Because either their mental state causes them to be a danger to themselves or others, or else they need to be doing hard illegal drugs daily, which shelters will not tolerate. These people you cannot just throw a house at. It's been done and it always plays out the same. If you were not a high functioning individual, you don't have the mental capability of maintaining a home. So the home gets completely thrashed, until it becomes inhabitable. And all that money spent on building it is wasted. Now, something that is difficult to destroy, such as a large storage container furnished with metal furniture that can be washed, that actually could work, and is being done in places like california

But you won't ever solve the issue of chronic homelessness for a few reasons. You can't force someone into substance abuse treatment. And no insurances want to pay for seriously mentally ill people to be put into the residential treatment centers for months-years at a time. That is insanely expensive. You have the cost of paying all the staff, which is a high cost because they all need to be licensed and certified. Then you have the cost of getting the license to operate as a RTC. The cost of maintaining the building. Cost of everyone's medications. Cost of food. Etc. Insanely expensive. AND, you also have a large chunk of seriously mentally ill who don't recognize it, and therefore wouldn't willingly go to a residential treatment center. So then you have the ethical dilemma of getting a court to take away their rights, and force them into one

So because of these issues, you are only going to see more and more chronically homeless people. And it has NOTHING to do with there not being enough houses for them to live in

Maybe prisons for nonviolent drug offenses and the mentally ill should be just a tiny bit nicer than the various versions of the Siberian gulag we operate now.

Also fix the economy and health care by allowing normal ppl to own business, be doctors, pharmacists etc.

Also stop using immigrants for hvac, agriculture, and tradeskills.

Oh wait, u couldn't have fancy golf courses and miles of cheep syndicated retail if individuals could choose alternatives to Walmart or the supermarket.

[starkind]

Also if u want ppl to be healthy either pay them to be skinny or kill them for being fat and also shut down the usda and the sugar food corps. Also healthcare is a scam also plenty people are left uneducated as to how to protect themselves or their industry still operates in an injurious way. Also if u made cars and gasoline engine vehicles a death sentence u would immediately see improvement in ppls amount of walking and buying and sourcing locally. Also pesticides destroyed the environment and u need ppl eating the bugs and being responsible and healthcare/health insurance is a 90% scam for 90% of ppl.

[starkind]

Plus the trillions of metric tons of plastic and cardboard trash we ship around making Amazon and others rich and also ppl can't build their homes off of flood planes out of durable economic efficient materials.

Basically humans are to stupid to live and over 70% of the earths population only survives off the horrible fucked up world ending industrial processes making ppl sick and retarded and producing cheep highly potent addictions to substances and more.

Unleash the horsemens.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe prisons for nonviolent drug offenses and the mentally ill should be just a tiny bit nicer than the various versions of the Siberian gulag we operate now.

Also fix the economy and health care by allowing normal ppl to own business, be doctors, pharmacists etc.

Also stop using immigrants for hvac, agriculture, and tradeskills.

Oh wait, u couldn't have fancy golf courses and miles of cheep syndicated retail if individuals could choose alternatives to Walmart or the supermarket.

or just supply the drugs for free and let those with no self control thin themselves out

much more cost efficient - just look at portugal

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or just supply the drugs for free and let those with no self control thin themselves out

much more cost efficient - just look at portugal

I'm ok with this if I'm not going to get swatted or w/e cuz I shot or knifed or smashed or hung or whatever an undesirable shitting on the beach.

But u n me both know how untrue this world is and how in America it'd be trash ppl making the police evict us cuz we are clearly clean and refuse to feed wild animals.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or just supply the drugs for free and let those with no self control thin themselves out

much more cost efficient - just look at portugal

Rat Paradise

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or just supply the drugs for free and let those with no self control thin themselves out

much more cost efficient - just look at portugal

This is the secret solution in place all over the USA that no one wants to talk about: Don’t take their drugs away, even though they are illegal, and instead let the people kill themselves with them. Places like CA act like they don’t want to take away their drugs because they care about the homeless and their plight, but the reality is they know it speeds along their death. And a dead homeless person is one less problem

The average lifespan of an adult in the USA is like ~78yrs old. Know what it is for a chronically homeless person? 50

The only negative to this plan is emergency rooms. These cannot turn anyone away. So as the homeless slowly kill themselves from their drug use in front of everyone, they try to save their own lives by going into ER’s. Not only does this prolong their life, something the authorities don’t want, but it also racks up tons of ER expenses

Note: I am not condoning this “solution”, just being a realist and pointing out it is the solution the country has adopted

[Jibartik]

No moratorium extension for the people of Venice beach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]