Afghanistan Megathread

[JurisDictum]

My understanding is the modern military industrial complex has decided it matters to keep US military deaths low. Deaths turn people against war. But they still are not sold on the idea that the US cares about foreign deaths, or generally wasteful military ventures.

So they are hoping calling it quits in Afghanistan will be enough. It was the one where we didn't really have any fighters out there that wanted to side with us. They did it for money and would try find a way out the entire time. You had one case of a guy signing up thousands of soldiers on paper, collecting their pay, and then hops the border to Pakistan -- there were no solders.

Iraq and Syria unfortunately -- we can get groups that actually represent a part of the population to fight our side of the cause. So the our defense industry and foreign policy establishment is no where near throwing in the towel.

But then there is a more macro historical view that demonstrates that failing empires tend to overextend leading up to their collapse. It is a way to try to deal with the illegitimacy back home brought on by an increasingly parasitic elite. We won't just disappear, but we may very well find that in a couple hundred years that America is no longer considered the world's only super power. If that is the case, Afghanistan might be marked as the Stalingrad of American Imperialism.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My understanding is the modern military industrial complex has decided it matters to keep US military deaths low. Deaths turn people against war. But they still are not sold on the idea that the US cares about foreign deaths, or generally wasteful military ventures.

I wish I could find the video but putin said his style of governance was to make people comfortable, and if they are comfortable you can get away with anything, but it has to be the majority that are comfortable so you can only get away with what the majority is comfortable with.

Basically he was saying, keep people just comfortable enough that they dont rebel and to min max that as best as you can.

Our acceptance of the non stop military strikes, border clashes, and violence as just a way of life so long as my Disney+ subscription remains uninterrupted is all too apparent IMO.

I cant count the times Ive said, "oh god this is going to start world war 3" and then we just go on with our lives like it never happened.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cant count the times Ive said, "oh god this is going to start world war 3" and then we just go on with our lives like it never happened.

Heres one way I look at the world, when trying to think about what may come to pass.

If it's gonna be bad for the 1% in some way, loss of money, power, whatever etc, then it's not gonna happen.

Seriously look at whatever doomsday event and think about whether or not its gonna be bad for the top of the ruling classes, if its pretty bad for them, you're good, gonna be fine.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heres one way I look at the world, when trying to think about what may come to pass.

If it's gonna be bad for the 1% in some way, loss of money, power, whatever etc, then it's not gonna happen.

Seriously look at whatever doomsday event and think about whether or not its gonna be bad for the top of the ruling classes, if its pretty bad for them, you're good, gonna be fine.

I’m just saying that I was raised under the impression that if you’re a country and are shooting missiles or blowing up boats and things in other countries that’s an act of war but apparently that is not an act of war at all anymore, it’s just a way of life.

That’s a good little system you have though… like a canary in a coal mine would you think the 1% buying up giant islands is a sign that the canary might be dying?

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m just saying that I was raised under the impression that if you’re a country and are shooting missiles or blowing up boats and things in other countries that’s an act of war but apparently that is not an act of war at all anymore, it’s just a way of life.

I agree the 1% will remain and so do they.

Yeah it's always better to be launching missiles than receiving them.

And if you don't launch them on the reg, someone is gonna try to pull something against you.

If you wanna be the big kid on the playground, you gotta fight to remain the big kid on the playground.

This is geopolitics 101, if you don't agree with this axiom, then you either have utopian delusions or no idea how things work on the world stage, or any idea of human history.

We humans have not actually done anything except fight each other. Everything we have from the water that flows into your house to that chair you're sitting in, is a result of wartime necessity.

There are concepts deeper than this, but those all fall under efforts to impress a mate.

Human beings truly don't do anything but fight or mate. literal and abstract.

[Gravydoo II]

I thought kids in cages was the big issue..
Or was it inflation...?
Oh it was the 74,000 missing ballots in AZ!
No no... it was something else... The debt! Yeah the debt! Thats the big problem!
Hmmm... maybe it was something else.. Qanon?
oh wait, got it... all the thousands of cities the blm burned to the ground.. literally thousands of them.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought kids in cages was the big issue..
Or was it inflation...?
Oh it was the 74,000 missing ballots in AZ!
No no... it was something else... The debt! Yeah the debt! Thats the big problem!
Hmmm... maybe it was something else.. Qanon?
oh wait, got it... all the thousands of cities the blm burned to the ground.. literally thousands of them.

Kids in cages was the big issue until biden was elected then it wasnt.

Infaltion is destroying our economy as we speak and you are going to be eating potato soup in 5 years.

those 75k ballots are why you are going to be in a shooting war downtown in 3 years.

The debt is why all of this is happening.

Hope this helps! (it wont.)

[Mesocyclone]

Sad when you gotta cheat to beat Donald Trump.

[Gravydoo II]

"destroying"

You ever destroyed anything in your life? Was it left in tact, functioning, and growing?? Well, you didnt destroy it.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Infaltion is destroying our economy as we speak and you are going to be eating potato soup in 5 years.

those 75k ballots are why you are going to be in a shooting war downtown in 3 years.

The debt is why all of this is happening.

Hope this helps! (it wont.)

OK doomer