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Old 09-08-2021, 02:16 PM
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Hahaha, no it doesn't. It would only mean that if EVERY single person in america got covid. Tons and tons of people die from smoking and alcohol, which are totally unnecessary vices that tax the healthcare system far more. Do you want to outlaw them? I'd assume not, because with those things you understand that life entails a certain level of risk.

The delta variant is more contagious, true. It's also far less lethal. Viruses very often become less lethal over time, because it's in their interest to not kill their hosts. So they often mutate into less lethal versions to maximize reproduction over time. I learned that in like highschool biology. The fact is, not treating a seriously ill person, who might not even HAVE covid but is just not vaccinated for it, is seriously evil medical malpractice. And you're calling the right a "death cult", get real.
I guess the millions of people dead all over the world, and the new strain which is even deadlier, is just the virus "warming up" to humanity.

This makes me laugh so fucking hard. Like this guy wants to get sick and die so fucking bad then explain it away at his own funeral.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:43 PM
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Hahaha, no it doesn't. It would only mean that if EVERY single person in america got covid. Tons and tons of people die from smoking and alcohol, which are totally unnecessary vices that tax the healthcare system far more. Do you want to outlaw them? I'd assume not, because with those things you understand that life entails a certain level of risk.

The delta variant is more contagious, true. It's also far less lethal. Viruses very often become less lethal over time, because it's in their interest to not kill their hosts. So they often mutate into less lethal versions to maximize reproduction over time. I learned that in like highschool biology. The fact is, not treating a seriously ill person, who might not even HAVE covid but is just not vaccinated for it, is seriously evil medical malpractice. And you're calling the right a "death cult", get real.

I wouldn't even really sya they "tax" the healthcare system in terms of putting a strain on it because many of those smoking and alcohol deaths are due to long term health effects. So you don't have packed ICUs and hospitals running out of oxygen because people drink alcohol. Whereas COVID puts a huge strain on the local healthcare system and infrastructure; you see it nonstop in these places where the ICUs are almost at (or are at) capacity due to COVID patients...people with other medical emergencies can't get the help they need.

For example, during the pandemic in NYC we have people dying in waiting rooms, in chairs, sitting on the floor in hallways, etc. because they couldn't get full treatment because the doctors and nurses had so many COVID patients that they were dealing with. You had people dying at home because ambulances couldn't get to them because they were already answering COVID calls nonstop.

You don't have that happening because people choose to smoke cigarettes and drink.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:54 PM
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I wouldn't even really sya they "tax" the healthcare system in terms of putting a strain on it because many of those smoking and alcohol deaths are due to long term health effects. So you don't have packed ICUs and hospitals running out of oxygen because people drink alcohol. Whereas COVID puts a huge strain on the local healthcare system and infrastructure; you see it nonstop in these places where the ICUs are almost at (or are at) capacity due to COVID patients...people with other medical emergencies can't get the help they need.

For example, during the pandemic in NYC we have people dying in waiting rooms, in chairs, sitting on the floor in hallways, etc. because they couldn't get full treatment because the doctors and nurses had so many COVID patients that they were dealing with. You had people dying at home because ambulances couldn't get to them because they were already answering COVID calls nonstop.

You don't have that happening because people choose to smoke cigarettes and drink.
At the beginning of the pandemic, when infections were highest, why was that emergency navy medical boat never even used? Why were the impromptu field hospitals barely used and eventually closed? Again I'm not saying this isn't an issue *anywhere*, it's just simply not a widespread issue; most hospitals are managing just fine. Also, most hospitals usually do operate at close to full capacity because it makes no financial sense to have hundreds of extra beds and equipment that are never used but have to be maintained and paid for.

So, sure, in some places they are overburdened due to covid, and that's unfortunate obviously I don't want people dying in the hallways, but it is not the apocalyptic issue people are making it out to be.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:15 PM
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"Look guys we aren't MANDATING the vaccine, but you just can't do anything, including getting medical treatment for ANY other disease or medical emergency if you don't."

Sincerely, a totally sane and not all authoritarian tyranical crazy person

If you get covid you only have a 99% chance of surviving. If you're having a heart attack you're gonna be FINE. Seriously, you can't understand how batshit crazy such a policy is?
Conditional mandates are voluntary. I'd be buttmad if they did a real one, but that hasn't happened.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:02 PM
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Cant wait to see the trump mandates.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:13 PM
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Look how butt hurt they all are. Mmmm those tears are so sweet. Fucking delicious. Keep crying. I love it.

Tell me how unfair it is again. I really like that part. Tell me again how you're a victim in all this because the doctor wont risk their life to save yours, after they already told you how to not get sick.

Thats the problem with you christian/right wingers. You're so selfish and cannot accept responsibility for yourselves.

If you got yourself sick, you get yourself better.
You had your chance and you squandered it.
Accept responsibility for once.

You did it to yourself.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:21 PM
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why does horza keep saying im thorgrimm?
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:22 PM
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why does horza keep saying im thorgrimm?
Because he's an empty gimmick poster that smears everything he can't refute
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:33 PM
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Yeah, pretty much. If the doctor said "im not gonna treat you if you didnt get a flu shot" well, thats his business aint it? You would FORCE them to endanger their lives to treat you. You wouldnt care if they died, as long as you didnt.

You best believe when I go to a job, if they dont wear masks or have a vaccine card, I decline them service. Why should I go into your disease palace and fix/build your new bar or whatever? You dont care if you get me sick. So, I dont care if you need my help.

See how YOUR actions made the response??
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:36 PM
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Yeah, pretty much. If the doctor said "im not gonna treat you if you didnt get a flu shot" well, thats his business aint it? You would FORCE them to endanger their lives to treat you. You wouldnt care if they died, as long as you didnt.

You best believe when I go to a job, if they dont wear masks or have a vaccine card, I decline them service. Why should I go into your disease palace and fix/build your new bar or whatever? You dont care if you get me sick. So, I dont care if you need my help.

See how YOUR actions made the response??
Why only The Flu or Covid

What if a Doctor refuses to treat you for any possible reason he can make up. Maybe he doesn't like the way you look.
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