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Old 04-16-2022, 01:21 PM
dareo dareo is offline
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if you worked on getting keys, prioritizing them for 9 months. Forgoing everything else, socking relentlessly. Would you just stop??
Not likely. Taking a month off from the zone to do other encounters maybe. Im guessing the guild would be dragging a chunk of members to one side of the decision against their will either way.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:29 PM
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Not likely. Taking a month off from the zone to do other encounters maybe. Im guessing the guild would be dragging a chunk of members to one side of the decision against their will either way.
now imagine for 9 months you played by the rules and the other entity for the last 2 months, have done everything in their power to play in the grey area of rules. For example, Telling you to drop an encounter because you didnt reach 97% in 60 seconds, then a week later go 65 seconds and say "GMs dont count seconds." or countless LTK exit room trains, or stalling a yeli and ignoring video evidence just to continue to kill it or better yet raid interfering a FTE and then their response is "control your FTE".

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:42 PM
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now imagine for 9 months you played by the rules and the other entity for the last 2 months, have done everything in their power to play in the grey area of rules. For example, Telling you to drop an encounter because you didnt reach 97% in 60 seconds, then a week later go 65 seconds and say "GMs dont count seconds." or countless LTK exit room trains, or stalling a yeli and ignoring video evidence just to continue to kill it or better yet raid interfering a FTE and then their response is "control your FTE".

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.
"This is why we can't have nice things!" heheh
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Old 04-16-2022, 02:11 PM
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How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.
And yet even your own story speaks of revenge and denying loot. Doesn't seem like there's different stories here, just different ways of telling the same one. /shrug
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Old 04-16-2022, 08:49 PM
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now imagine for 9 months you played by the rules and the other entity for the last 2 months, have done everything in their power to play in the grey area of rules. For example, Telling you to drop an encounter because you didnt reach 97% in 60 seconds, then a week later go 65 seconds and say "GMs dont count seconds." or countless LTK exit room trains, or stalling a yeli and ignoring video evidence just to continue to kill it or better yet raid interfering a FTE and then their response is "control your FTE".

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.
Other guild got a couple keys out of the 30 plus they have by questionable means. Welp guess that means we have to wake sleeper and fuck the whole server over.
Well adjusted individuals.

Its comical you are even trying to explain your position rationally like anybody in here is going to agree with your perspective. You want exclusivity, period. Just be honest about it, there's no reason trying to spin it as kingdom is the bad guy, anybody with even 20% of a brain sees right through it. And stop trying to act like you wouldn't have woken it if Kingdom had gotten all their keys 100% legit. You were waking it soon as they had a warder kill force regardless of their method of obtaining keys.

The top guilds on p99 generally almost always house the most hardcore career everquest players whose lives completely revolve around p99. Their top priority from the time they create their character is to obtain items that nobody else can get. It validates the amount of time they pour into this virtual world. If some casual with 20% raid attendance in a 2nd or 3rd place guild gets that same exclusive loot, it hurts their ego and diminishes their accomplishments. That's why it was woken.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:29 PM
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Not likely. Taking a month off from the zone to do other encounters maybe. Im guessing the guild would be dragging a chunk of members to one side of the decision against their will either way.
That's correct. All that would do is cause a guild to fracture and it gets woken. In all scenarios, the Sleeper is woken. As the number of keys grows, the less control any individual has over the outcome.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:19 PM
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If farming warders sucks, not saying it doesnt, can’t a guild just stop doing it? Farming a fishbone earring sucks but somebody is usually there signing up for it. Thats the game, camps that suck for stuff you probably dont need.

Is warder loot so good that you have to farm it 24/7 and the only relief is waking sleeper? Honest question.
The demand for Warder loot is endless, and so too is the effort to acquire it. It's an unsustainable situation.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:27 PM
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Raiding ST is horrible and boring guyz

We did you a favor by waking the Sleeper we swear
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Old 04-16-2022, 02:00 PM
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It's everyone fault that one guild triggered the event

Seal Team is the victim here guys. It's so boring and horrible to raid and your fault we triggered the event. We did you a favor anyways so stop being mad about it.
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Old 04-16-2022, 03:24 PM
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